Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...

[BallsOut]

So let me get this straight.

NO trades away Darren Collison (a future 20/10 PG) and James Posey's remaining 2 years contract for Trevor Ariza's 4 year contract.

Somebody fire this Otis Smith dude. Horrible trade. I wonder who they're going to trade Chris Paul for next. Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry?

[G-train]

Why didn't the Nets keep Jianlian who will be better than Murphy this season and in the future, then they can keep Lee as well?

[QuebecBaller]

So let me get this straight.

NO trades away Darren Collison (a future 20/10 PG) and James Posey's remaining 2 years contract for Trevor Ariza's 4 year contract.

Somebody fire this Otis Smith dude. Horrible trade. I wonder who they're going to trade Chris Paul for next. Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry?

Maybe Peja for Chandler and Curry

Okafor/Curry/Gray
West/Songaila/Brackins
Ariza/Chandler/Pondexter
Thornton/Bellineli
Paul/???

[QuebecBaller]

It's gonna be weird to see Murphy without Dunleavy jr

[ihatetimthomas]

Wow. I am shocked that Larry Bird was able to pull this one off. Indy hasnt pulled off any decent deal in year and this is a great one. One of the most pressing needs for Indy is the pg situation, and Collison is a nice young pg. Great player for the Pacers. Collison is a very hard working and high IQ player. Watched him thoughout his UCLA days and I am glad he is playing well.

Looks like a little bit of a desperation move for the Hornets. But its tough trading a prospect on a rookie contract and getting value for him. Could have done a little better maybe, but expect Ariza to flourish with Paul feeding him buckets and drawing doubles to him. this is not going to fix the problem the Hornets have, but he will be a solid addition.

Obv this is a complete salary dump by the Rockets. But they have Battier at the 3, which probably is a better fit with all the scorers they have.

Nets get cap relief next season and can make a splash in the FA market next season. They also get a veteran big man with range. Not a bad deal.

Deal was decent for all parties, but I think the Hornets are still hurting. Ariza will not be enough to appease Paul. Indy is the clear winner, acquiring one of the upcoming pgs. For once, something good has happened to them.

[widowmaker]

NO did get better today. Maybe they could have gotten better value for Collison, but Ariza comes in being the 3rd scoring option (behind West) maybe 4th (behind Thorton). I just would have liked to see them upgrade their bigs.

[Showtime]

NO did get better today. Maybe they could have gotten better value for Collison, but Ariza comes in being the 3rd scoring option (behind West) maybe 4th (behind Thorton). I just would have liked to see them upgrade their bigs.

This was an incredibly short-sighted move which just sets the table for massive failure in two years. The team won't be contending, and Paul will leave, and the team will have already given away their future all star 20/10 PG and be ready to dump Ariza's deal.

[Dasher]

This was an incredibly short-sighted move which just sets the table for massive failure in two years. The team won't be contending, and Paul will leave, and the team will have already given away their future all star 20/10 PG and be ready to dump Ariza's deal.

Oh please. The Hornets will be able to find another point guard at Collison's level. They got decent value for a guy who would not supplant the starter on the majority of The NBA's teams. Trevor solidifies a position that has been an issue for the for years and he is paid at a decent clip.

[G-train]

Oh please. The Hornets will be able to find another point guard at Collison's level. They got decent value for a guy who would not supplant the starter on the majority of The NBA's teams. Trevor solidifies a position that has been an issue for the for years and he is paid at a decent clip.

Collison is gonna average 16/8 and Ariza is the 87th most efficient player in the league, shoots 2/6 treys per game and sub 40% FG.

Good defender, but good defenders are easier to come by than 16/8 PG's.

[QuebecBaller]

Oh please. The Hornets will be able to find another point guard at Collison's level. They got decent value for a guy who would not supplant the starter on the majority of The NBA's teams. Trevor solidifies a position that has been an issue for the for years and he is paid at a decent clip.

TJ Ford might be available real soon

[InspiredLebowski]

NO should go out and sign Earl Watson for the vet's minimum

[KB2009Champ]

ariza has got to feel like a real dummy right now.

all that sheeeet the rockets promised him out the window.

smh.

fire your damn agent

[Simple Jack]

Why Murphy if you have Favors?

[Showtime]

Oh please. The Hornets will be able to find another point guard at Collison's level.

Collison as a starter last year (37 games):

19 PPG, 9 AST, 3.5 REB

How many PG's were that close to being 20/10 players in the entire league last season from the point position?

Deron, Paul, and Nash put up 16.5 PPG so I wouldn't say he's back in form to being a 20 PPG player.

That's it. And that was as a rookie. So don't tell me that players of his calibre are a dime a dozen. He's a rookie that has incredible potential because he can distribute and score. He's shown the ability to produce when put into the starting role, and he can only improve. In two years time, Collison will be entering the beginning of his prime, and the hornets will be desperate for a PG who can put up 20/10 every night.

They got decent value for a guy who would not supplant the starter on the majority of The NBA's teams. Trevor solidifies a position that has been an issue for the for years and he is paid at a decent clip.

Again, it's short-sighted. What they did was trade a guy who was a reserve player NOW (because he was a rookie and playing behind a top PG in the league, not because he lacked talent), for a CAREER ROLE PLAYER to patch a weak position on the team. That's what they did. They gave away a future all-star to improve the wing in the extreme short term.

And why was that position so weak to begin with? Peterson, Peja, Posey, Mason. They kept trying to get players to improve that position, but they were so desperate that they overpaid and overrated the talent and made bad moves in the process. This is another move that will put them in a bad position later on, because Ariza is NOT the kind of talent that elevates teams. He's a role player that can fill some gaps in established teams. And the hornets gave away talent to package a bad contract for a short-term patch that WILL cost them later on down the road.

[InspiredLebowski]

Why Murphy if you have Favors?

Because he's on a one year deal and Favors is nowhere near ready. The better question is why sign Sean May, obviously the discussions for this trade came out of nowhere. At least as far as Jersey being involved anyway.