Duncan is better than Kobe. deal with it

[T_L_P]

of course. some tied.

2002:

Duncan in the reg: 26/13/4/3, .576 TS%, 27.0 PER
Kobe in the reg: 25/6/6/2, .544 TS%, 23.3 PER

Duncan in the Playoffs: 28/14/5/4, .550 TS%, 31.8 PER
Kobe in the Playoffs: 27/6/5/1/1, .511 TS%, 20.5 PER

Duncan played 10 less games (19 to 9, the Spurs actually played 10 games but Duncan missed one due to his father's passing) but only had 0.6 less Win Shares.

Let's see Kobe beat a Shaq/Duncan tandem with rookie Tony Parker, injured David Robinson (missed 6 Playoff games), Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Malik Rose, Antonio Daniels, Danny Ferry, Terry Porter.

2004:

Duncan in the reg: 22/13/3/1/3, 27.1 PER
Kobe in the reg: 24/6/5/2, 23.7 PER

Duncan in the Playoffs: 22/11/3/1/2, 24.1 PER
Kobe in the Playoffs: 25/5/6/2, 21.0 PER


2005: Kobe missed 16 games and the Playoffs. How is he anywhere near Duncan in '05, who played with better production in the regular season and actually had a Playoff run. You have Kobe over Duncan in 2000 (I'm assuming because he missed the Playoffs), so why doesn't the same apply for 2005, especially when Duncan actually better in both the 2000 and 2005 regular seasons?

Other than that, not a bad selection on your part.

[robert_shaww]

2002:

Duncan in the reg: 26/13/4/3, .576 TS%, 27.0 PER
Kobe in the reg: 25/6/6/2, .544 TS%, 23.3 PER

Duncan in the Playoffs: 28/14/5/4, .550 TS%, 31.8 PER
Kobe in the Playoffs: 27/6/5/1/1, .511 TS%, 20.5 PER

Duncan played 10 less games (19 to 9, the Spurs actually played 10 games but Duncan missed one due to his father's passing) but only had 0.6 less Win Shares.

Let's see Kobe beat a Shaq/Duncan tandem with rookie Tony Parker, injured David Robinson (missed 6 Playoff games), Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Malik Rose, Antonio Daniels, Danny Ferry, Terry Porter.

2004:

Duncan in the reg: 22/13/3/1/3, 27.1 PER
Kobe in the reg: 24/6/5/2, 23.7 PER

Duncan in the Playoffs: 22/11/3/1/2, 24.1 PER
Kobe in the Playoffs: 25/5/6/2, 21.0 PER


2005: Kobe missed 16 games and the Playoffs. How is he anywhere near Duncan in '05, who played with better production in the regular season and actually had a Playoff run. You have Kobe over Duncan in 2000 (I'm assuming because he missed the Playoffs), so why doesn't the same apply for 2005, especially when Duncan actually better in both the 2000 and 2005 regular seasons?

Other than that, not a bad selection on your part.

Look, they are close anyway, give me kobe because i love his killer instint, thats it...if horry hits that 3 in 20003 game 5.......my god....its ALL over...

[T_L_P]

Look, they are close anyway, give me kobe because i love his killer instint, thats it...if horry hits that 3 in 20003 game 5.......my god....its ALL over...

But he didn't. You postulate so much about Duncan being bailed out by his teammates, and your talking about the exact same for Kobe.

You couldn't present a single case for any of the years I listed. Therefore, Duncan > Kobe in '02, '04 and '05.

[robert_shaww]

But he didn't. You postulate so much about Duncan being bailed out by his teammates, and your talking about the exact same for Kobe.

You couldn't present a single case for any of the years I listed. Therefore, Duncan > Kobe in '02, '04 and '05.

im giving you 05, but in 04 and 02 kobe played the finals...give me bryant (not only because of the playoff run....)

04 im 100% sure

[T_L_P]

im giving you 05, but in 04 and 02 kobe played the finals...give me bryant (not only because of the playoff run....)

04 im 100% sure

2002 is pretty much the same as 2007. Kobe had the team, Duncan didn't. The difference is, Duncan was better in the 2002 regular season and much better in 2002 Playoffs. In 2007, however, Kobe played better in the regular season but Duncan played better in the Playoffs.

Duncan '02 regular season: 27.0 PER
Duncan '02 Playoffs: 31.8 PER

Kobe '02 regular season: 23.2 PER
Kobe '02 Playoffs: 20.5 PER

Duncan '07 regular season: 26.1 PER
Duncan '07 Playoffs: 27.4 PER

Kobe '07 regular season: 26.1 PER
Kobe '07 Playoffs: 24.1 PER

At least remain consistent. You can't give Kobe '02 because he made the Finals, and not give it to Duncan in '07, especially when Duncan's production was better than Kobe's in both seasons.

[robert_shaww]

2002 is pretty much the same as 2007. Kobe had the team, Duncan didn't. The difference is, Duncan was better in the 2002 regular season and much better in 2002 Playoffs. In 2007, however, Kobe played better in the regular season but Duncan played better in the Playoffs.

Duncan '02 regular season: 27.0 PER
Duncan '02 Playoffs: 31.8 PER

Kobe '02 regular season: 23.2 PER
Kobe '02 Playoffs: 20.5 PER

Duncan '07 regular season: 26.1 PER
Duncan '07 Playoffs: 27.4 PER

Kobe '07 regular season: 26.1 PER
Kobe '07 Playoffs: 24.1 PER

At least remain consistent. You can't give Kobe '02 because he made the Finals, and not give it to Duncan in '07, especially when Duncan's production was better than Kobe's in both seasons.

ok, fine.

[T_L_P]

ok, fine.

You say that, but next thread when someone says Duncan > Kobe in '02 or '05, you'll post a surprised gif. of some kind.

I gave Kobe 2000, 2001, and 2008-2012, and a tie in 2006. I'd actually probably give Kobe the edge that year now. 2007 is very debatable, but I'm giving Duncan the edge.

[ArbitraryWater]

Look, they are close anyway, give me kobe because i love his killer instint, thats it...if horry hits that 3 in 20003 game 5.......my god....its ALL over...

[Paul George 24]

Dude you're so retarded lmfao

[Akrazotile]

holy flying fck what a meltdown

[Springsteen]

[ISHGoat]

check into a mental asylum bro...

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe's easily better simply because he's had to deal with a dramatized and unstable franchise his entire career. Yes, they will spend money...but they're morons.

Duncan's been on the best franchise and played for a GOAT coach his entire career.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Kobe's easily better simply because he's had to deal with a dramatized and unstable franchise his entire career. Yes, they will spend money...but they're morons.

Duncan's been on the best franchise and played for a GOAT coach his entire career.

We just gonna ignore that Kobe had Phil for all five of his rings?

[ISHGoat]

Kobe's easily better simply because he's had to deal with a dramatized and unstable franchise his entire career. Yes, they will spend money...but they're morons.

Duncan's been on the best franchise and played for a GOAT coach his entire career.

bro you need to stop clinging to another man's nuts. he wasnt that good of a player - around top 20-25 all time for me. resume wise? sure he is top 10. but remember that he played for phil and with shaq + his stacked 09/10 team.