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  1. 01-07-2015, 04:10 PM #31
    TheMarkMadsen
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    Default Re: Shaw would have won more championships if not for David Stern

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    Well no shit, because Shaq never got to play in his prime without Kobe on his team.

    please tell us the difference between 98,99 and 2000 Shaq the

    Because Shaqs "prime" sure does coincidentally fall into olace with the exact same time Kobe became elite.

    Shaq spent years in Orland with Nick Anderson, Horace Grant & first team all nba guard penny Hardaway. Didnt win anything.

    Goes to the lakers, gets to play with 2 all star guards. Doesn't win anything until Kobe becomes elite and leads the nba playoffs in 4th quarter scoring for 3 straight years.

    If Shaq is the MDE, then what is a 22 year old Kobe who out scored and out assisted him throughout the most dominant run in the western conference playoff run of all time.

    Then Shaq gets to go play with the third goat shooting guard in Wade.

    This would be like if Kobe spent his entire career playing with Shawn Kemp, Shaq and prime KG
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  2. 01-07-2015, 04:10 PM #32
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    Default Re: Shaw would have won more championships if not for David Stern

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth
    K, but that has nothing to do with my point.
    why does it not? Even if Shaq posted the same numbers but had the Lakers not win any championship from 2000 to 2002, no one would even mention "peak" Shaq as being arguably the most dominant force in NBA history during those years. Posting impressive numbers are just an after thought if you lose.
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  3. 01-07-2015, 04:13 PM #33
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    Default Re: Shaw would have won more championships if not for David Stern

    Quote Originally Posted by riseagainst
    why does it not? Even if Shaq posted the same numbers but had the Lakers not win any championship from 2000 to 2002, no one would even mention "peak" Shaq as being arguably the most dominant force in NBA history during those years. Posting impressive numbers are just an after thought if you lose.
    Exactly. Made 3 straight finals with Shaq. Then replaces Shaq with a 3rd team all nba big, and makes 3 straight finals again..

    Shaq plays with prime penny (first team all nba) an prime wade (third goat shooting guard) and never got close to the type of succes he saw with Kobe.
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  4. 01-07-2015, 04:36 PM #34
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    Default Re: Shaq would have won more championships if not for David Stern

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Drew
    I agree. If it wasn't for David Stern, Shaw would be challenging Russell for most rings.

    Isn't it Howard Stern?
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