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Old 08-07-2018, 07:57 PM   #16
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Default Re: Ben Simmons is not better than Tatum or Mitchell

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Donovan Mitchell is starting to get overrated. The dude is an inefficient volume scorer. Took him 18 shots to score 20 points. He plays in a great defensive system that pretty much allows him to do whatever he wants. If he was playing for the suns, no one would give af about him. Tatum is also getting overrated. I'm not a 6ers fan, i lowkey hate them but still, i'm taking Ben over those 2 guys if i'm a GM.

Jazz are basically the Suns without Gobert. They were closer to the Suns for worst in the league than they were to the playoffs when Gobert came back from his 2nd injury.

Mitchell can play!
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:57 PM   #17
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Disagree.

Was far more consistent and had more impact overall.

And yeah, I love both Tatum and Mitchell, so nothing against them.

We can agree to disagree then, just don't project other's thoughts into what I myself have said.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:00 PM   #18
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We can agree to disagree then, just don't project other's thoughts into what I myself have said.

Mate, we will agree to disagree.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:31 PM   #19
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Let's not kid ourselves about Mitchell and pretend he's overrated.

The guy played his ass off in the playoffs, and played his best basketball when his team had their backs to the wall. Dropped 22 in the 3rd quarter alone in Game 5 against the Rockets before leaving with an injury. He's a big game player and will only get better.

Anyways, agreed with the OP...Mitchell and Tatum are both better than Simmons.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:33 PM   #20
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Let's not kid ourselves about Mitchell and pretend he's overrated.

The guy played his ass off in the playoffs, and played his best basketball when his team had their backs to the wall. Dropped 22 in the 3rd quarter alone in Game 5 against the Rockets before leaving with an injury. He's a big game player and will only get better.

Anyways, agreed with the OP...Mitchell and Tatum are both better than Simmons.
1 game is why he's great? How about the rest of the playoffs he took like 21 shots to average 24 points, dude is streaky. He is overrated, casuals need to be stopped!
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:47 PM   #21
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Simmons was good last year, but I think his lack of shooting is a much bigger problem than people think, especially come playoff time.

In fact, Simmons was the WORST mid-range shooter in the NBA last year and never even managed to make a 3-pointer.

Like, there are PLENTY of average joes who can shoot better then Simmons.
Can they orchestrate an offense like he can? Isn't it able to create his own shots, despite not having a jumper? Still averaged 16 ppg 8 apg 8 rpg and 1.7 spg. More points, rebounds and assists than Tatum. When Embiid went down, he carried the Sixers to a 3rd seed in the East. He is by far better than the other two.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:59 PM   #22
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Can they orchestrate an offense like he can? Isn't it able to create his own shots, despite not having a jumper? Still averaged 16 ppg 8 apg 8 rpg and 1.7 spg. More points, rebounds and assists than Tatum. When Embiid went down, he carried the Sixers to a 3rd seed in the East. He is by far better than the other two.

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Old 08-07-2018, 09:10 PM   #23
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looks like OP finally agrees. Kobe > Lebron
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:18 PM   #24
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:30 PM   #25
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1 game is why he's great? How about the rest of the playoffs he took like 21 shots to average 24 points, dude is streaky. He is overrated, casuals need to be stopped!
Guess you'd rather have the guy who scores 1 point in a playoff game, gets swept, and can't hit a 5 foot jumper if his life depended on it.

Ben Simmons is a poor man's Lebron if you took away Lebron's ability to shoot the ball at all. Bully driving and cute stats. Cool. Of course he can facilitate like few can but so could Kendall Marshall. Until he can score the ball with some consistency, he's a liability when the game matters the most.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:54 PM   #26
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If Boston loses game 7 in first rd vs Milw and no one is typing Tatum name. Kid is good but that Sixers series really has fans overrating the f*ck out of him. 87 rating on 2k, saw someone say Tatum carried Boston in the playoffs and two days ago saw folks taking Tatum over KAT.


Tatum destroyed simmons H2H... there's no "ifs" about it.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:15 PM   #27
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Can they orchestrate an offense like he can? Isn't it able to create his own shots, despite not having a jumper? Still averaged 16 ppg 8 apg 8 rpg and 1.7 spg. More points, rebounds and assists than Tatum. When Embiid went down, he carried the Sixers to a 3rd seed in the East. He is by far better than the other two.

Tatum got the better of Simmons in the playoffs where it mattered most.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:18 PM   #28
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Guess you'd rather have the guy who scores 1 point in a playoff game, gets swept, and can't hit a 5 foot jumper if his life depended on it.

Ben Simmons is a poor man's Lebron if you took away Lebron's ability to shoot the ball at all. Bully driving and cute stats. Cool. Of course he can facilitate like few can but so could Kendall Marshall. Until he can score the ball with some consistency, he's a liability when the game matters the most.

Proctor my friend, he averaged 16ppg over the season, thats scoring with consistency, especially while dishing out over 8 assists per game on average.

In a thread comparing him to Tatum who averaged 13ppg and 1.6 assists, he's well on top there.

He's a rookie who has some work to do, but we can't hold one bad rookie playoff game against him....if we're talking overall season, which we are...we can't just throw Ben off the edge, he did win ROTY for a reason.

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Old 08-07-2018, 10:20 PM   #29
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Tatum got the better of Simmons in the playoffs where it mattered most.

Cute, and small sample size.

Bigger sample size - the season, Ben wins hands down.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:56 PM   #30
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Proctor my friend, he averaged 16ppg over the season, thats scoring with consistency, especially while dishing out over 8 assists per game on average.

In a thread comparing him to Tatum who averaged 13ppg and 1.6 assists, he's well on top there.

He's a rookie who has some work to do, but we can't hold one bad rookie playoff game against him....if we're talking overall season, which we are...we can't just throw Ben off the edge, he did win ROTY for a reason.

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