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    Quote Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
    Well if you guys are gonna factor in D-Rose's improvment next season with how well you'll do why not factor in Durants and Westbrook
    He did. He only put one arrow between Rose and westbrook. Durant was way better then Deng, Boozer was way better then Green. Noah>3xKrastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    Rose is only slightly better then Westbrook. And even then ONLY at scoring.
    Boozer is only slightly better then Green.
    Durant is SOOOO far better then anyone on the Bulls at all.
    Noah is better then Kristic even if per minute their numbers are about the same.
    And Brewer isn't better then either SG.

    I'd take the Thunder starting 5 any day of the week on paper.

    And here's the kicker. The Thunder bench >>>>>>> Bulls crap bench. Bulls have no depth and only a so-so starting 5. The Thunder have a very good starting 5 and a solid bench.

    On paper the Thunder are easily better. And on the court last year they won 8 more games then the Bulls since paper doesn't matter much.

    Can't wait for you to hate Boozer just like everyone else he played for does. But hey, on paper is exactly how he plays.
    Boozer is only slightly better then Green HAAAAAAAA OHAAAA *gets up off floor* Bulls starting 5>Thunders. Thunder Bench>Bulls.

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    Default Re: Derrick Rose:"Why can't i be MVP?"

    Has there ever been an MVP point guard who picked up the award in their 3rd year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    Rose is only slightly better then Westbrook. And even then ONLY at scoring.
    Boozer is only slightly better then Green.
    Durant is SOOOO far better then anyone on the Bulls at all.
    Noah is better then Kristic even if per minute their numbers are about the same.
    And Brewer isn't better then either SG.

    I'd take the Thunder starting 5 any day of the week on paper.

    And here's the kicker. The Thunder bench >>>>>>> Bulls crap bench. Bulls have no depth and only a so-so starting 5. The Thunder have a very good starting 5 and a solid bench.

    On paper the Thunder are easily better. And on the court last year they won 8 more games then the Bulls since paper doesn't matter much.

    Can't wait for you to hate Boozer just like everyone else he played for does. But hey, on paper is exactly how he plays.
    Do you watch b-ball???Brewer is better than either SG at overall game. Sefalosha is god awful and Harden can only shoot 3's??? Boozer only Slightly better.. I cant even argue with you cause you have no idea what you are talking about. Holler at me when green shoots over 50% and averages a double double. You can take the starting 5 but im pointing out facts.

    The thunder bench is Maynor, Harden, Peterson, Ibaka and collision i wouldnt call that a stellar bench. The bulls have Watson, Bogans, Korver, Gibson, thomas. Gibson is better than any big off Thunder bench. Watson can score way better than maynor. Harden is better than bogans and Korver can shoot 3s way better than peterson. So yeah the benches are even if not the bulls slightly better. Last time i checked the bulls were injured for a majority of the second half of the season. Look how many games deng rose and noah missed. We are lucky we even made the playoffs. I mean get your facts straight and look at circumstances before you start spitting non-sense.
    The bulls overall have a better starting 5 because our bigs are much better than the thunder.

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    What's your facts? That you missed Thabo was 2nd all defensive team last year or that you have no clue about Harden and claimed he only shoots 3?

    Or how about Boozer? You realize he doesn't play a lick of D right? Guess not.

    Hey, speaking of injuries, you're right you were lucky to make the playoffs last year. The only reason you did was because of Bosh's injury.

    Gibson is better than any big off Thunder bench? Really? Who in their right mind would take Taj over Ibaka? No one. Ibaka outplayed him per minute last year being 4 years younger and has better size and that's ignoring his stats are deflated because he barely played to start the year since he had been in the country only a few months before the first game.

    Thomas and Kover. Really? They wouldn't even make the Thunder roster let alone be part of the rotation.

    The overrating of all things Bulls is actually amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    What's your facts? That you missed Thabo was 2nd all defensive team last year or that you have no clue about Harden and claimed he only shoots 3?

    Or how about Boozer? You realize he doesn't play a lick of D right? Guess not.

    Hey, speaking of injuries, you're right you were lucky to make the playoffs last year. The only reason you did was because of Bosh's injury.

    Gibson is better than any big off Thunder bench? Really? Who in their right mind would take Taj over Ibaka? No one. Ibaka outplayed him per minute last year being 4 years younger and has better size and that's ignoring his stats are deflated because he barely played to start the year since he had been in the country only a few months before the first game.

    Thomas and Kover. Really? They wouldn't even make the Thunder roster let alone be part of the rotation.

    The overrating of all things Bulls is actually amusing.
    Thabo defense is way overrated why do you think bulls shipped his ass out lol. Not to mention he cant dribble nor can he shoot. I have seen Harden play since ASU but currently on the Thunder he is used as a 3 point shooter and look over half of his shots are 3 point shots. he can do other things but until he is utilized more he is a 3 point shooter on the thunder for now. Last time i checked when did Kristic play defense let alone grab over 10boards a game as a 7'0?????What does Ibaka do besides blocj shots?? He currently has zero offensive post moves. He started shooting a 10ft a little better towards the end of the season but thats about it. Ibaka is a little bigger but taj is better overall. He can work better in the post has a little better jump shot and is a better rebounder. They both block shots so that cancels out. Thunder have peterson and what can he do besides 3 pointers right now. Ill def wait for that answer. i see you ignored about how the starting bulls bigs are way better than the starting bigs for the thunder but thats cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    What's your facts? That you missed Thabo was 2nd all defensive team last year or that you have no clue about Harden and claimed he only shoots 3?

    Or how about Boozer? You realize he doesn't play a lick of D right? Guess not.

    Hey, speaking of injuries, you're right you were lucky to make the playoffs last year. The only reason you did was because of Bosh's injury.

    Gibson is better than any big off Thunder bench? Really? Who in their right mind would take Taj over Ibaka? No one. Ibaka outplayed him per minute last year being 4 years younger and has better size and that's ignoring his stats are deflated because he barely played to start the year since he had been in the country only a few months before the first game.

    Thomas and Kover. Really? They wouldn't even make the Thunder roster let alone be part of the rotation.

    The overrating of all things Bulls is actually amusing.
    I agree with your Post except when u said Booze is only slightly better then Green.

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    Thabo defense is way overrated why do you think bulls shipped his ass out lol. Not to mention he cant dribble nor can he shoot. I have seen Harden play since ASU but currently on the Thunder he is used as a 3 point shooter and look over half of his shots are 3 point shots. he can do other things but until he is utilized more he is a 3 point shooter on the thunder for now. Last time i checked when did Kristic play defense let alone grab over 10boards a game as a 7'0?????What does Ibaka do besides blocj shots?? He currently has zero offensive post moves. He started shooting a 10ft a little better towards the end of the season but thats about it. Ibaka is a little bigger but taj is better overall. He can work better in the post has a little better jump shot and is a better rebounder. They both block shots so that cancels out. Thunder have peterson and what can he do besides 3 pointers right now. Ill def wait for that answer. i see you ignored about how the starting bulls bigs are way better than the starting bigs for the thunder but thats cool.
    I don't except Mo Pete to be part of the rotation if he even makes the roster so asking me what Mo Pete does besides shoot 3's is a waste of a question.

    The Thunder had a 9 man rotation last year and that is back 100% intact. Aldrich/Mullens *might* be added to that. I don't except anyone else to be, nor do they really need to be. Mo isn't going to get any PT over Thabo or Harden or Durant or Green or Westbrook or Maynor. Cook will probably get a roster spot because he's young and can hit three's. But again, don't expect him to be part of the rotation because there's not a person above he's going to take PT from.

    Ibaka actually has good post moves and has a nice little hook and a decent short range jumper to go along with good rebounding and shot blocking.

    And as for your starting bigs. You have Noah who everyone loves because of his hustle, but it's not like he puts up big numbers. And Boozer who plays no D to go along with his good numbers. Still I'd say advantage Bull's in the 4 and 5 spots. So what? HUGE edge to Thunder in the 3 spot. Edge Thunder at the 2 either way. And only a slight edge to Rose over Westbrook (and really, if we're using the Noah intangible, Westbrook has that over Rose by leaps and bounds).

    2 of the starting 5 are band new and haven't even played together. One's a decent player that should be a back up on a good team and the other's an overpriced assclown. And your depth still sucks.

    I know I know. Rose is going to get 90 assists per game. Until he doesn't at which case Bulls fans will blame Boozer for being selfish and holding onto the ball too long and Rose is forced to score and not pass because the coach wants him to. And if you get lucky you can dream of adding Carmelo to your team of selfish ball dominant assclowns while Noah and Deng shed a tear as they deserve far better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    I don't except Mo Pete to be part of the rotation if he even makes the roster so asking me what Mo Pete does besides shoot 3's is a waste of a question.

    The Thunder had a 9 man rotation last year and that is back 100% intact. Aldrich/Mullens *might* be added to that. I don't except anyone else to be, nor do they really need to be. Mo isn't going to get any PT over Thabo or Harden or Durant or Green or Westbrook or Maynor. Cook will probably get a roster spot because he's young and can hit three's. But again, don't expect him to be part of the rotation because there's not a person above he's going to take PT from.

    Ibaka actually has good post moves and has a nice little hook and a decent short range jumper to go along with good rebounding and shot blocking.

    And as for your starting bigs. You have Noah who everyone loves because of his hustle, but it's not like he puts up big numbers. And Boozer who plays no D to go along with his good numbers. Still I'd say advantage Bull's in the 4 and 5 spots. So what? HUGE edge to Thunder in the 3 spot. Edge Thunder at the 2 either way. And only a slight edge to Rose over Westbrook (and really, if we're using the Noah intangible, Westbrook has that over Rose by leaps and bounds).

    2 of the starting 5 are band new and haven't even played together. One's a decent player that should be a back up on a good team and the other's an overpriced assclown. And your depth still sucks.

    I know I know. Rose is going to get 90 assists per game. Until he doesn't at which case Bulls fans will blame Boozer for being selfish and holding onto the ball too long and Rose is forced to score and not pass because the coach wants him to. And if you get lucky you can dream of adding Carmelo to your team of selfish ball dominant assclowns while Noah and Deng shed a tear as they deserve far better.
    Taj vs Ibaka that can wait til the season starts to be seen. As far as the SG you still havent showed how they both are better than brewer. I cant think of anything Sefalosha is better than brewer at seeing they both are defensive specialist although brewer does other things much better. The only thing harden can do better than brewer is shoot. You will see this year how the bulls are better especially starting off with the first game Bulls v Thunder in OKC..... On Oct, 27th prepare to eat crow lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwax26
    Taj vs Ibaka that can wait til the season starts to be seen. As far as the SG you still havent showed how they both are better than brewer. I cant think of anything Sefalosha is better than brewer at seeing they both are defensive specialist although brewer does other things much better. The only thing harden can do better than brewer is shoot. You will see this year how the bulls are better especially starting off with the first game Bulls v Thunder in OKC..... On Oct, 27th prepare to eat crow lol....
    I have watched Serge and he is better then Taj. He didn't get alot of playing time last year because of getting use to the nba. Serge isn't far better through. Brewer>Thebo, but Harden>Korver. Harden is a good dribbler and they used him when WB was on the bench.Maynor>CJ. The bulls Starting 5 is better through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    I have watched Serge and he is better then Taj. He didn't get alot of playing time last year because of getting use to the nba. Serge isn't far better through. Brewer>Thebo, but Harden>Korver. Harden is a good dribbler and they used him when WB was on the bench.Maynor>CJ. The bulls Starting 5 is better through.
    O ok from what i saw from Serge he was good at shot blocking and rebounding. I didnt see much offense but ill take your word. That first game should be really good and we should see serge v taj a lot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwax26
    O ok from what i saw from Serge he was good at shot blocking and rebounding. I didnt see much offense but ill take your word. That first game should be really good and we should see serge v taj a lot...
    Yep and Lets hope DR does this to Thebo again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkp_IeN10k8

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidrage
    I don't except Mo Pete to be part of the rotation if he even makes the roster so asking me what Mo Pete does besides shoot 3's is a waste of a question.

    The Thunder had a 9 man rotation last year and that is back 100% intact. Aldrich/Mullens *might* be added to that. I don't except anyone else to be, nor do they really need to be. Mo isn't going to get any PT over Thabo or Harden or Durant or Green or Westbrook or Maynor. Cook will probably get a roster spot because he's young and can hit three's. But again, don't expect him to be part of the rotation because there's not a person above he's going to take PT from.

    Ibaka actually has good post moves and has a nice little hook and a decent short range jumper to go along with good rebounding and shot blocking.

    And as for your starting bigs. You have Noah who everyone loves because of his hustle, but it's not like he puts up big numbers. And Boozer who plays no D to go along with his good numbers. Still I'd say advantage Bull's in the 4 and 5 spots. So what? HUGE edge to Thunder in the 3 spot. Edge Thunder at the 2 either way. And only a slight edge to Rose over Westbrook (and really, if we're using the Noah intangible, Westbrook has that over Rose by leaps and bounds).

    2 of the starting 5 are band new and haven't even played together. One's a decent player that should be a back up on a good team and the other's an overpriced assclown. And your depth still sucks.

    I know I know. Rose is going to get 90 assists per game. Until he doesn't at which case Bulls fans will blame Boozer for being selfish and holding onto the ball too long and Rose is forced to score and not pass because the coach wants him to. And if you get lucky you can dream of adding Carmelo to your team of selfish ball dominant assclowns while Noah and Deng shed a tear as they deserve far better.

    Boozer is Kareem apparently.

    Anyhow

    My look on this. Is that the Bulls will have the better record but I think OKC will be better in the playoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
    Boozer is Kareem apparently.

    Anyhow

    My look on this. Is that the Bulls will have the better record but I think OKC will be better in the playoffs
    Who said he was Kareem?? WE said he is way better then Jeff green and a 20/10 player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwax26
    You will see this year how the bulls are better especially starting off with the first game Bulls v Thunder in OKC..... On Oct, 27th prepare to eat crow lol....
    What are you 11? I really don't care about 1 game. There's no point for bravado in picking one regular season game where anything can happen. Game 1 in the regular season is as meaningless as it can get and actually count. Check back around May. Well, really about March since by then I'm sure you'll have realized that the Thunder are a much better team then the Bulls.

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