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    Rank who's the best Finals and Playoffs performer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    Rank who's the best Finals and Playoffs performer?
    Wilt, LeChoke, and Kobe.

    BTW, the REAL FINALS in the decade of the 60's were between the Celtic Dynasty, and WILT.

    Here was just an example...

    In Chamberlain's 64-65 season, he was traded mid-year, for three decent players, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before. He then single-handedly carried what was a 40-40 team, past Oscar's stacked 48-32 Royals in the first round, which included a clinching 38-26-5-11, .654 TS% game.

    Then, he took that roster, which had gone 34-46 without him...up against the six-time defending champion, and 62-18 Celtics, with SIX HOFers, and at the peak of their dynasty...

    to a game seven, one point loss. In a game in which Chamberlain scored 30 pts on 12-15 shooting (and with a .724 TS%), with 32 rebounds. And in that game, he scored Philly's last 8 points, including 2-2 from the line with 36 secs remaining, and a dunk over Russell with 5 secs left...to pull the Sixers to within 110-109. Then, after the "clutch" Russell hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, the Sixers had a chance to pull off the greatest upset in NBA playoff history. Alas, a Wilt teammate, Hal Greer, threw an inbounds pass that was picked off by Hondo. Oh, and while Chamberlain shot 12-15 from the floor, his teammates collectively shot 28-75 from the floor.. .373...in that one point loss.

    For the series, Chamberlain averaged 30.1 ppg, with 31.4 rpg (and a 25.2 TRB%), on a .555 FG% (in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .413 overall), and with a .575 TS%, in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .465.

    Oh, and then Boston went on to rout the Baylor-less Lakers in the Finals, 4-1, which included two 30+ point blowout wins, including a 129-96 clincher. In a series in which Russell averaged 18-25-6 on a .702 FG%. And against this center...

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._id2=chambwi01

    So, Wilt was actually putting up FINALS of 22-25-7; 22-32-10; 28-30; 29-28; 30-31; 31-27; and 34-27 in the 60's.

    And one can only wonder what kinds of playoff and Finals records that Chamberlain would own had he faced the Lakers in that decade. Russell DESTROYED LA in his FIVE Finals against them (and in his 6th, against Wilt...did absolutely nothing.) Meanwhile, Wilt faced the Lakers in 86 regular season games in that decade, and had 42 (yes, 42) games of 40+ points; including 19 of 50+; 7 of 60+; and even 2 of 70+ (with a high of 78.)

    Of course, when Chamberlain FINALLY had an EQUAL roster to Russell's, that was healthy, he led his Sixers to a carpet-bombing of the eight-time defending champion, and 60-21, Celtics, 4-1. In a series in which he outscored Russell, per game, 22-11 ppg; outrebounded him, per games, 32-22 rpg; outassisted him, per game, 10-6 apg; and outshot Russell from the floor in that series, .556 to .358.

    None other than John Wooden claimed that had Wilt and Russell swapped rosters (and coaches) in their 10 years in the league together, and it would have been WILT holding all those rings.
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    LAZZERUS was dropped on his head as a baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilocon165
    LAZZERUS was dropped on his head as a baby
    That would only matter if there way anything in there.

    To answer OP,

    1. LeBron


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    3. Ilt Chokerlain

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    Chamberlain is the only player who actually holds a #1 ranking in a Finals statistic. 24.6 RPG!

    Only #1 Lebron can hope for is the tov record which he will soon get

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    Chamberlain in his 23 "must win" post-season games...

    12-11 W-L record

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]31.1 ppg [/COLOR](Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)
    26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)
    3.4 apg (Regular season career average was 4.4 apg)
    .540 FG% (in post-seasons that shot an eFG% of about .435 in that span))



    3 games of 50+ points (including the ONLY THREE by a GOAT candidate)

    5 games of 40+ points (including a Finals 45-27 .741 FG%, .680 TS%, 27.0 TRB% elimination game)

    13 games of 30+ points

    6 games of 30+ rebounds

    20 games of 20+ rebounds
    Wilt's 37 must win, or series clinching playoff games...

    Wilt actually played in 37 "elimination games",...games where either his team faced elimination, or could have clinched the series:

    1. W: 53-22-2, 24-42 FG/FGA

    2. W: 50-35-2, 22-42

    3. L: 26-24-0, 8-18

    4. L: 33-23-1, 13-29

    5. W: 56-35-1-12, 22-48

    6. W: 32-21-1, 12-29

    7. L: 22-22-3, 7-15

    8. W: 39-30-?, 19-29

    9. L: 30-27-2, 12-28

    10. W: 38-26-5, 14-22, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

    11. W: 30-26-4, 13-22, 13 blks (Triple-Double)

    12. L: 30-32-2, 12-15

    13. L: 46-34-?, 19-34

    14. W: 18-27-9, 7-14

    15. W: 29-36-13, 10-16, 7 blks (Triple-Double)

    16. W: 24-23-4, 8-13

    17. W: 25-27-3, 10-19

    18. L: 28-30-7, 11-21

    19. L: 20-27-8, 6-21

    20. L: 14-34-5, 4-9

    21. W: 11-25-1, 5-9

    22. W: 16-29-3, 5-11, 16 blks (Triple-Double)

    23. L: 8-18-4, 1-5

    24. L: 18-27-3-10, 7-8

    25. W: 36-14-3, 12-20

    26. W: 12-26-11, 4-11, 11 blks (Quad-Double)

    27. W: 30-27-6, 11-18, 11 blks (Triple-Double)

    28. W: 45-27-3, 20-27

    29. L: 21-24-4, 10-16

    30. W: 25-19-9, 7-12

    31. L: 23-12-4, 10-21

    32. W: 8-31-8, 4-6

    33. W: 20-24-2, 8-12, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

    34. W: 24-29-4, 10-14, 8 blks

    35. W: 21-28-4, 10-17, 8 blks

    36. W: 5-22-7, 2-2

    37. L: 23-21-3, 9-16


    W-L : 24-13

    Here were Wilt's averages in those 37 games:

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]29.5 ppg[/COLOR]

    26.1 rpg

    4.2 apg (missing one game)

    .546 FG% (in post-seasons that shot about .435 on average in that span.)


    Keep in mind that 24 of those 37 games came after his "scoring seasons" (59-60 thru 65-66)

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    Definitely not this loser:

    Fact #1 - Chokerlain played in an absolutely shitty and garbage ass era
    Fact #2 - Chokerlain played for his stats and didn't give a shit about winning
    Fact #3 - Chokerlain choked HARD and this can be evidenced by his significant drop off in production

    .511 FT% shooter in the regular season
    .465 in the playoffs
    .375 in the finals


    Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
    Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
    Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

    Default NBA choking rating

    Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

    Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

    Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

    '60 - -4.4
    '61 - -1.4
    '62 - -15.4
    '63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
    '64 - -2.2
    '65 - -5.4
    '66 - -5.5
    '67 - -2.4
    '68 - -0.6
    '69 - -6.6
    '70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
    '71 - -2.4
    '72 - -0.1
    '73 - -2.8

    Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


    Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

    1960 - +3.5
    1961 - -4.0
    1962 - -3.9
    1964 - +1.8
    1965 - +2.0
    1966 - -3.1
    1967 - -10.4
    1968 - -6.1
    1979 - -3.8
    1970 - -1.9
    1971 - -9.0
    1972 - -8.6
    1973 - -17.5


    Lets look at a couple of physical behemoths from the '60's:






    Stick figures? Yep.


    1973 NBA Finals
    Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

    1970 NBA Finals
    Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
    Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

    1969 NBA Finals
    Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
    Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

    1968 Division Finals
    Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
    Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

    1966 Division Finals
    His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

    1965 Division Finals
    Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

    1964 NBA Finals
    His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

    1963 Regular season
    Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

    1962 Division Finals
    Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

    1961 Division Semifinals
    Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

    Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

    1960 Division Finals
    After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

    Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big164
    Chamberlain is the only player who actually holds a #1 ranking in a Finals statistic. 24.6 RPG!

    Only #1 Lebron can hope for is the tov record which he will soon get
    Not true.

    Wilt also holds the record for largest drop off in terms of career ppg average to finals ppg average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    This dude had 23 inch arms though! Same size as Arnold!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Definitely not this loser:

    Fact #1 - Chokerlain played in an absolutely shitty and garbage ass era
    Fact #2 - Chokerlain played for his stats and didn't give a shit about winning
    Fact #3 - Chokerlain choked HARD and this can be evidenced by his significant drop off in production

    .511 FT% shooter in the regular season
    .465 in the playoffs
    .375 in the finals


    Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
    Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
    Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

    Default NBA choking rating

    Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

    Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

    Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

    '60 - -4.4
    '61 - -1.4
    '62 - -15.4
    '63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
    '64 - -2.2
    '65 - -5.4
    '66 - -5.5
    '67 - -2.4
    '68 - -0.6
    '69 - -6.6
    '70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
    '71 - -2.4
    '72 - -0.1
    '73 - -2.8

    Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


    Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

    1960 - +3.5
    1961 - -4.0
    1962 - -3.9
    1964 - +1.8
    1965 - +2.0
    1966 - -3.1
    1967 - -10.4
    1968 - -6.1
    1979 - -3.8
    1970 - -1.9
    1971 - -9.0
    1972 - -8.6
    1973 - -17.5


    Lets look at a couple of physical behemoths from the '60's:






    Stick figures? Yep.


    1973 NBA Finals
    Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

    1970 NBA Finals
    Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
    Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

    1969 NBA Finals
    Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
    Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

    1968 Division Finals
    Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
    Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

    1966 Division Finals
    His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

    1965 Division Finals
    Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

    1964 NBA Finals
    His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

    1963 Regular season
    Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

    1962 Division Finals
    Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

    Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

    1961 Division Semifinals
    Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

    Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

    1960 Division Finals
    After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

    Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)


    FAR more dominant that Shrinkage...

    as for the rest of your nonsense...

    '60: In Wilt's rookie season he took what had been a LAST PLACE team the year before, to a 49-26 record. In the first round of the playoffs he single-handedly carried that roster to a series win with a 39-23 series, and in the winner-take-all closing game...put up a 53-22 game.

    Then, he took a roster, that was man-for-man, badly outclassed, to a game six, two point loss, against a HOF-laden 59-16 Celtics team, in a series in which he averaged 31-27, and on a .500 FG%, in a post-season NBA that shot .402 overall. Oh, and in a must win game five, all he could do was crush Russell with a massive 50-35 game.
    '61: Yep...all Wilt's fault. All he did was hang a 37-23 series, while his teammates collectively shot .332 from the field. But yes, blame Wilt's missed FTs. Amazing how Shaq played on two title teams in which he had Finals of .387 and .292 from the line. Must have been his FT shooting that won those series.

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    Continuing...

    '62: In the first round of the playoffs, Chamberlain averaged a 37-23, and in the clinching game five do-or-die game, he put up the greatest triple double in playoff history... a 56-35-12 game.

    Then Chamberlain dragged essentially the same last place roster that he inherited in his rookie season, but now older and worse, to a game seven, two point loss, in a series in which he averaged 34-27. He also hung two 40+ point games, including one game in which he outscored Russell, 42-9, and outrebounded him, 37-20. In that game seven, newspaper recaps at the time, and opposing Boston players praised Wilt's DEFENSE. And in the last minute, Wilt scored Philly's last five points, to tie the game, but Same Jones hit the game-winner. BTW, the Celtics were favored in EVERY game of that seven game series. Oh, and BTW, Wilt went 8-9 from the LINE in that game seven. Funny how the poster (who actually stole this garbage from some idiot who posted this years ago)...missed that, huh?
    '63: Yep, and he did so while leading the league in FIFTEEN statistical categories, including...get this... WIN SHARES.

    But, more on that in a moment...
    '64: Wilt essentially took that SAME exact roster that went 31-49 the year before, to a 48-32 record. The only addition was rookie Nate Thurmond, who played part-time, out of position, and shot .395 from the field.

    In the WDF's, Chamberlain faced the ONLY Western Division foe until the '67 Finals. How did he perform? Put up a 39-23 .559 FG% series (in a post-season NBA that shot .420.) And in the clinching game seven win... a 39-30-10 game.

    In the Finals, Wilt's Warriors were outgunned in HOFers, 8-3, which was bad enough. But Wilt's two "HOFers" were rookie Thurmond, a part-timer, and Guy Rodgers, who was the worst shooter of his era. And yes, they lost the series, 4-1, but the last two games were decided in the waning seconds. In those two losses, Chamberlain hung games of 27-38, and 30-27. For the series, Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 29-11, outrebounded Russell, per game, 28-25, and outshot Russell from the floor by a .517 to .386 margin (again, in a post-season that shot .420 overall.) Oh, and how did Wilt's two "HOF" teammates do? Thurmond shot .326 from the floor, and Rodgers shot .258. And there are those that claim that LeShrinkage had no help in his '15 Finals.

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    Continuing...

    '65: This is one of my favorites.

    Wilt was TRADED at mid-season, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before, for three players and a boatload of cash. Even with Wilt they only went 40-40.

    However, he SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroyed Oscar's stacked 48-32 roster in the first round, which included a clinching performance of 38-26.

    Then, he took that massively outgunned roster, to a game seven, one point loss, against a HOF-laden 62-18 Celtics team at the peak of their dynasty. For the series, all Wilt could do was put up the most dominant performance in NBA playoff history...and against the GOAT defensive center in NBA history. Averaged 30.1 ppg, 31.4 rpg, 3.3 apg, had a 25.1 TRB%, blocked 7.0 shots per game, shot .555 from the floor, in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .413 overall;and had a TS% of .575...in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot a .465 TS%. A staggering full 11 percentage points above the series average.

    And how about this? Wilt led BOTH teams in MPG, PPG, RPG, BPG, TRB%, FG%, and TS%.

    And in game seven, Wilt scored 30 points, including Philly's last eight points, with 32 rebounds, and on an .800 FG%, and on a phenomenal .724 TS%. His teammates collectively shot 29-75 from the floor (.373) in a one point loss. And if Hondo hadn't stolen the ball, it would have been the greatest upset in NBA playoff history.

    As for "once again being outscored by Sam Jones in a game seven"...Jones was a GUARD. BTW, Chamberlain was the leading scorer in these Celtic series in '60, '62, '64, '65, and '66. He also outscored Jones in '67. So Jones was barely able to oustcore Wilt in '68, and then in '69. Enough of the "Jones outscored Wilt in game sevens" nonsense.
    '66: In that elimination game, Chamberlain had 46 points (19-34 from the field.) He also shot .509 from the floor in that series, while his teammates collectively shot .352.

    For the series, all Chamberlain could do was average 28 ppg, 30 rpg, and shoot .509 from the field.

    BTW, Wilt led the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and FG% that season, all while leading his team to the best record in the league.



    The poster left out Wilt's '67 post-season, so here goes:

    First round, Wilt averages ...get this... 28.0 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 11.0 apg, and on a .617 FG%.

    In the EDF's, and against Russell's 60-21 Celtics, Chamberlain destroys the Dynasty in a near sweep. He outscores Russell, per game, 22-11; ourebounds him, per game, 32-23; outassists per game, 10-6; and outshoots him from the field by a .556-.358 margin.

    In the clincher, Wilt outscored Russell, 29-4; outrebounded him, 36-21; outshot him from the floor, 10-16 to 2-5; and outassisted him, 13-7. He even found time to record 7 blocks.

    In the Finals, Wilt buries Nate Thurmond in Nate's peak season. He outscores him in five of the six games; outrebounds him in five of the six games; outassists him in five of the six games; and outshot him in every game. BTW, he outshot Nate by a .560 to .343 margin. Oh, and a peak Kareem faced Thurmond in three straight post-season series, and shot .486, .428, and .405 against him.

    Overall, a 21-29-9 .579 playoff run. And in series in which he annihilated his HOF peers. THE greatest post-season run in NBA history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papaya Petee
    This dude had 23 inch arms though! Same size as Arnold!


    The only thing 23 about him is his PO's PPG. "GOAT scorer" doe..

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    Continuing...

    '68: The Sixers were DECIMATED by injuries in that post-season, that they weren't even favored against the Knicks in the first round.

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=14

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...6&postcount=13

    Chamberlain, himself, was playing with multiple injuries, including a tear in his calf muscle. And again, they were without HOFer Billy Cunningham the entire series.

    So here was Wilt playing with injuries that we KNOW that guys like Kareem, LeChoke, and Reed would not have (my god, LeFlop was carried off the floor with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS for cryingoutloud.) Not only that, but Wilt hung a 22-25-7 series.

    It was truly amazing that he even played at all, and it was just as amazing that a Sixers roster that was just decimated by injuries and missed games, lost a game seven by four points.
    Of course, we KNOW that LeFLOP would not have even suited up under those conditions. Hell, he was carried off the court (waving the white flag BTW) with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS...



    '69: In the game three six point loss, Chamberlain put up a 16-26 game on 55% shooting, while West and Baylor combined to shoot 1-10 from the floor in the 4th quarter.

    In that game four loss, Wilt shot 2-11 from the line, while his counterpart Russell, shot 2-12 from the floor. Oh, and how about Baylor in that game? 2-14 from the field, and 1-6 from the line...in a one point loss.

    In the game seven, two point loss, all Wilt could do was hang an 18-27-10 triple-double, and on a game high .656 from the floor. West had a .569 TS%, Baylor had a .455 TS%, and Wilt's counterpart Russell put up a 6 pt, 21 reb, .342 TS% game.

    But yes, blame Wilt...who, BTW, was not even in the game in the last five minutes, thanks to his incompetent coach, who promptly quit before being fired.

    Of course that same COACH had a PRIME Wilt playing the HIGH POST!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987


    The only thing 23 about him is his PO's PPG. "GOAT scorer" doe..
    Nah he averaged 22, lets not give him too much credit.

    I said 17.5s and I was giving him too much credit! 17.5s are guys that spend 3-4 years in the gym.

    He looks like he has 14's in that picture!

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