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Old 05-15-2019, 09:11 AM   #16
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Default Re: Alabama just banned abortions.

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All that does is outlaw abortions for people without the means to travel somewhere where abortion is legal.

So the poor people will have more kids they can't afford and the government will have to take care of them.

Conservatives don't give a shit after the kid is born. Who cares if the kid lives in extreme poverty and has 2 worthless deadbeats for parents? At least he's alive amirite
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:15 AM   #17
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what if you were aborted. would you care enough about higher taxes/longer lines at the welfare office to the point where you'd sacrifice yourself?


what if you had more kids that you didn't want?

would you run far away from them too?
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:18 AM   #18
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Screw Bama. We kill fetuses out here.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:24 AM   #19
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Abortion is one of those issues which both sides have sufficient merit. That's why people who are for or against shouldn't be too hard on on their opponents and a compromise might be the best solution.
There are checkpoints along the way of a pregnancy that attempt to regulate the pregnancy.

If anomalies are detected: abortion aka stillbirth, aka miscarriage occurs to the tune of 1 in 3 pregnancies.

Some of these anomalies include, but are not limited to: chromosomal defect, uterine size, uterine health, blood supply to placenta, and overall health of mother and fetus.

Sometimes during a pregnancy the checks fail too. When you consider that 1 in 3 pregnancies fail for one reason or another, that's a lot of pregnancies that require the checkpoints to work.

When the checkpoints fail, medicine takes over.

There is no argument in science or medicine. The argument only comes into play when a medical professional's religion deems it unacceptable to step in in what they have determined to be God's decision.

The problem in my view, is who the **** are you to decide that a baby that is going to have a tragic, doomed existence because it is going to die eventually should be born and live out a brief life of suffering and misery by being kept alive artificially on life support? So medicine should not decide to end suffering when it could, but it should prolong suffering because it can in pro-life's view? Because that was God's plan?

That is short-sighted and cruel. The religious folk tend to not think that far ahead however.

If you want to believe in God, fine. I believe that God/nature gave us the capability to do better with science. Period.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:28 AM   #20
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This abortion ban makes no exceptions for victims of rape and incest


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...d5 64f1d4d70a

This is the biggest issue.

You got some crotchety old pastor of some baptist church in AL that is clueless thinking that this is OK. Some of the assholes actually think that if the mother is at risk of dying, they should still have the child.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:31 AM   #21
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banning abortions is based on religious believes , you have to believe what the government is telling the people you govern that you must follow their beliefs.

sorry but that is predication of beliefs


what does religion have to do with protecting babies from being cut up and sucked out of their moms so they can enjoy some margaritas and avoid stretch marks


and if adoption isn't your thing then government handouts actually make it beneficial to have multiple kids these days


its completely selfish to resort to abortion. the only time it should even be considered is if the mothers health is in danger. period
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:32 AM   #22
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what if you had more kids that you didn't want?

would you run far away from them too?


the mom ran away from me actually


she wanted her ex to be the father. she was in love with him. we were just having a fling

a loving union household is better than a flawed biological one
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:33 AM   #23
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banning abortions is based on religious believes , you have to believe what the government is telling the people you govern that you must follow their beliefs.

sorry but that is predication of beliefs


Religious beliefs? You need religion to tell you that killing an unborn child is wrong?


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Old 05-15-2019, 09:34 AM   #24
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But I think that should be a woman's right and not the state.


And what rights does the child in her womb have? Zero?
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:39 AM   #25
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Religious beliefs? You need religion to tell you that killing an unborn child is wrong?



didn't you read the bible?

peter 1:23:

"and God said onto thee, thou shalt not scramble and vacuum thy new born from thou wives womb and dispose of it in near by waste disposal unit"












"of course... why didn't i think of that"





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Old 05-15-2019, 09:59 AM   #26
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Default Re: Alabama just banned abortions.

First: Not all conservatives are social conservatives.

Second: This won't hold up in the courts.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:38 AM   #27
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:51 AM   #28
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the mom ran away from me actually


she wanted her ex to be the father. she was in love with him. we were just having a fling

a loving union household is better than a flawed biological one


your daughter is lucky to have a man who is not her father but is man enough to take care of her.

fatherhood takes tremendous responsibility and sacrifices.

but i think it was you who made a thread talking down about parenthood and how much you hated it.

if you hate it so much, don't burden the kid by bringing him or her into this world.

i don't value life of an egg equally.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:59 AM   #29
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Donít really care, I donít live in AL

Their constituents should do something about it if they donít like it
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:29 AM   #30
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Conservatives don't give a shit after the kid is born. Who cares if the kid lives in extreme poverty and has 2 worthless deadbeats for parents? At least he's alive amirite
George Carlin said it best: conservatives want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers.
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