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Old 04-07-2010, 01:59 AM   #121
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I'm with anyone who thinks MJ couldn't last more than 35-40 games in an NBA season, where there's 3-4 games a week, including back-to-backs. Talking non stop physical, best in the world, basketball. That's at about 11-12 minutes per game IMO, as to not severely or fatally hurt MJ's body... but damn, I must say, after watching Jordan post up/go one-on-one against Raymond Felton, Jason Richardson, and Gerald Wallace in a clip from two years ago... I think he, of all players, has the skills and craftiness to pick up a ball at any age where he can still run and jump, and "out play" players. In certain instances at least - but not in a marathon AKA the nba season.

in practice with bobcats ... (posted already i see)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdV5UQImzVw

I know I've seen this camp video before, but I forgot he could still dunk at 45 years old (5:20 was a good one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlBUj9bFC4&feature=fvw

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Old 04-07-2010, 02:04 AM   #122
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I'm with anyone who thinks MJ couldn't last more than 35-40 games in an NBA season, where there's 3-4 games a week, including back-to-backs. Talking non stop physical, best in the world, basketball. That's at about 11-12 minutes per game IMO, as to not severely or fatally hurt MJ's body... but damn, I must say, after watching Jordan post up/go one-on-one against Raymond Felton, Jason Richardson, and Gerald Wallace in a clip from two years ago... I think he, of all players, has the skills and craftiness to pick up a ball at any age where he can still run and jump, and "out play" players. In certain instances at least - but not in a marathon AKA the nba season.

in practice with bobcats ... (posted already i see)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdV5UQImzVw

I know I've seen this camp video before, but I forgot he could still dunk at 45 years old (5:20 was a good one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlBUj9bFC4&feature=fvw
This is practice and camp... nuff' said. He is a veteran bench player who gets garbage minutes at best at the age of 50. Which seems pointless because he can play that role by being the owner.

He avg 20pp at around 40% FG during his comeback with the wizards. This time it will be noticeably worse. Please, no more failed comebacks, the last one was just hurtful to watch.
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Old 04-07-2010, 03:12 AM   #123
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Go ahead Jordan, tarnish your legacy even more.

And on a more tangible note, ruin your STATS even more. It ****ing sucks that his career FG% dipped below 50%.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:58 AM   #124
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Jordan's rings without star big man: 6
Kobe's rings without star big man: 0

Jordan's rings as number 1 option: 6
Kobe's rings as number 1 option: 1

Jordan's Finals MVPs: 6
Kobe's Finals MVPs: 1

Jordan's MVPs: 5
Kobe's MVPs: 1

Jordan's seasons shooting 50% or better: 8
Kobe's seasons shooting 50% or better: 0

Jordan's seasons shooting 50% or better in the PLAYOFFS: 6
Kobe's seasons shooting 50% or better in the PLAYOFFS: 1

Jordan's seasons scoring 30 or more PPG: 9
Kobe's seasons scoring 30 or more PPG: 3

Jordan's seasons averaging 30 PPG or better in the PLAYOFFS: 12
Kobe's seasons averaging 30 PPG or better in the PLAYOFFS: 4

Jordan's seasons averaging 6 assists or more: 7
Kobe's seasons averaging 6 assists or more: 3

Jordan's seasons averaging 6 assists or more in the PLAYOFFS: 11
Kobe's seasons averaging 6 assists or more in the PLAYOFFS: 5

Jordan's DPOY awards: 1
Kobe's DPOY awards: 0

Jordan's All-Star appearances: 14
Kobe's All-Star appearances: 12

Jordan's All-NBA 1st team selections: 10
Kobe's All-NBA 1st team selections: 7

Jordan's All-Defensive 1st team selections: 9
Kobe's All-Defensive 1st team selections: 7(plus it's a FACT his last few were based on reputation and NOT actual defensive play)

People who think Jordan is GOAT: The majority of the basketball world
People who think Kobe is GOAT: Alphawolf/Soopa/Desperado, KB42PAH, Fatal9, Cantstop.

Note: All numbers are rounded up accordingly.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bryanko01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jordami01.html

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Jordan without Pippen = 1-9 in the playoffs, never made it past the first round and had 5 losing seasons (below .500)

Kobe without Shaq = 2 Finals appearances, NBA champion, several winning seasons (above .500) and only 1 losing season.



as far as 'Finals MVP'

During the Lakers 3-peat from 00 - 02 the great teams were in the Western Conference...many experts agreed that the "real" NBA championship was played in the Western Conference Finals .....the East was really weak during this time. (seriously...would the Nets or even Milwaukee, Boston or New York even make the playoffs in the west during the early 00's ?...doubt it.)



2000 WCF vs Portland - Kobe led the Lakers with 22ppg 5ast 4reb in the and the deciding game 7 he led all Lakers with 25points 7ast 11rebs......Shaq chipped in with 18 points and a couple of boards lol

2001 WCF vs San Antonio (Much better team then Philly) Kobe averaged 33points 7reb and 7ast

2002 WCF vs Kings Kobe averaged 27ppg 4st and 6reb (Kings were a far better team then NJ)



defensive team selections?

Jordan's overrated defense http://airjudden2.tripod.com/jordan/defense.htm



and Jordan's high scoring numbers? MJ was a ballhog he led the league in FGA's a record nine times! Not just that but he was given the green light to jack up shots from the beginning of his career...then you compare him to Kobe who didn't start his first two years (there numbers as starters are almost identical) he also had to share the ball with Shaq for over half of his career! If he was given the green light to jack up shots for the start of his career l like Jordan he would be blowing his numbers out of the water


btw ''Kobe is the best all around player I ever coached'' - Phil Jackson

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Old 04-07-2010, 10:12 AM   #125
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Kobe without Shaq = 2 Finals appearances, NBA champion, several winning seasons (above .500) and only 1 losing season.

bla bla bla....

btw ''Kobe is the best all around player I ever coached'' - Phil Jackson

Desperate Desperado,

do you realize that kobe without an all-star 7-foot center = WON NOTHING

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Old 04-07-2010, 11:10 AM   #126
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Desperate Desperado,

do you realize that kobe without an all-star 7-foot center = WON NOTHING

?


lsd,

do you do realize that jordan without Pippen= WON NOTHING

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Old 04-07-2010, 11:16 AM   #127
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Funny stuff, an MJ thread always has to have Kobe's name talked about.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:37 PM   #128
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lsd,

do you do realize that jordan without Pippen= WON NOTHING

?

you already said that.

my response was that kobe didn't win without an all-star 7-footer

you're so desperate, you can only fall back to repeating what you already said
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:48 PM   #129
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why would you even ask this question?
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:14 PM   #130
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Apparently there are some rumors going on in Charlotte that MJ is actually planning to return for the 2012/2013 season. During this season Michael will turn 50 and it is said that Mike wants make a statement that age is not an obstacle anywhere in live. Therefore choosing the season in which he turns 50 would fit just perfectly. Furthermore this would make sense as the team could be built up the next two years so that in 12/13 they could have a real shot for going deep in the playofffs with MJ.
It is said that Jordans knee is know fully recovered and in a way better shape then it was in his Wizards years. As people in Charlotte claim Mike will work out hard for the next two years and is eager two return two the court in a better shape then he did in 2002.
What do you think? Is this just some smack talk or could there be some truth in those rumors. Somehow it sounds believable to mo on the other hand it just sounds to good to be true.
However with his knee fully recovered i am sure Mike would be at least as good as in 2003. Age is not a factor this days any more.


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