Jazz with any 5 of Joe Ingles, Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell, Royce O’Neale, Bojan Bogdanovic, Rudy Gobert: +11.5, 928 possessions
So try to keep 2 or 3 of them on the floor at all times. Front office needs to get them help besides more rookies. Try something else besides just Mitchell with the 2nd unit. Looks like you need to try staggering Rudy so he can play with Ingles on the 2nd unit minimum or take out O'Neale early to play Ingles with Rudy in the starting lineup but not sure that helps Conley?
Are the bench players permanently bad? I think you can argue for realistic optimism for better play from one guy: Ed Davis. Davis has proven to be a good player for the last couple of years, and has yet to find that level of impact in a Jazz uniform. There are reasons to believe it will improve.
you have to hope since he's being paid the most and is on the books next year as well
Everyone else, being hopeful is not too far away from dreaming. Dante Exum has been a good rotation player for about 20 games in his NBA career... he may improve as time passes after his injury, but it’s certainly not a sure thing. Emmanuel Mudiay is young, but he’s been bad his whole NBA career. Jeff Green is who he is at this point: he’s going to give you about 10-20 good games per season. Georges Niang can make a shot and probably is going to be a negative at the other stuff.
Mudiay and Green have both shown they can score the ball. Exum can defend. Niang can do a lot more than shoot if given the chance. Snyder needs to try these guys in some different combinations
What I find mildly remarkable is that the other players who aren’t playing are somehow even worse in practice. They must be, given that they’re not playing. We know what Tony Bradley is. Nigel Williams-Goss must somehow be so bad that the underperformance of Mudiay and Exum hasn’t even made Snyder think about playing him. Juwan Morgan earned a 3 trillion tonight. He’s apparently more valuable than Miye Oni, who was made inactive tonight. Stanton Kidd apparently wasn’t the answer, but did anyone think he was?
a bunch of rookies aren't the answer? Wow who would have thought that when Mitchell is the only rookie that has ever been good to start a year under Snyder. I think a few of them could help at some point this year though
Gobert was efficient: he scored 19 points on 9-10 shooting and added 17 rebounds. Great! But he didn’t make his usual impact defensively. He did scare the Thunder from getting all the way to the rim tonight, and they only took 18 shots down there. But they made 14 of them. On those shots from 4-14 feet away, the Thunder were 9-19, again, a higher percentage than Gobert usually allows. He blocked zero shots, and it’s his third consecutive game with zero blocks. He’s not the problem, but he hasn’t been DPOY elite recently.
“We got to find it,” Mitchell said. “We’ve got to find it within ourselves. A lot of it is on me. A lot of it is just trying to find guys who are open, lead guys on the defensive end, talk, communicate … I take a lot of this on myself.”
You should. Your selfish play is their biggest problem certainly
Utah got off to a good enough start, as it led 24-19 with 2:09 remaining in the first quarter. But as has happened numerous times this season, the Jazz offense stalled as the second unit came in (such has been especially challenging over the past three games as Snyder has had to tweak rotations due to the absence of Mike Conley because of knee soreness).
thought it was a tight hamstring
With Mitchell playing alongside Emmanuel Mudiay, Georges Niang, Jeff Green and Ed Davis, the Jazz surrendered that lead and trailed 25-24 at the end of the first quarter.
And then of course there are all the paint misses. The Jazz are currently 15th in the league in converting rim opportunities, 27th in what CTG calls “short mid,” which is essentially paint non-restricted, or what Jazz fans might recognize as the floater zone. Those shots aren’t going away; the Jazz staff believe that’s an important ingredient to keeping pick-and-roll defenses honest, and it often is. Check out the still to the right: if teams weren’t concerned about Mitchell’s available to score in the short mid area, they wouldn’t commit three defenders to wall off his drive here, and Gobert wouldn’t be wide open under the rim.
their love of the floater is a big part of their problems
In other words, the Jazz bench is a major problem right now. Jeff Green and Emmanuel Mudiay had nice nights on Saturday, so that stat would look slightly better now. But one of the puzzles Snyder has been trying to solve all season is how to manage the rotation so that those bench minutes are more tenable. He has tried staggering all five of his starters so that they come back in to help steady the bench unit, and it hasn’t made much of a difference. The Jazz need better play from a group that includes Green, Mudiay, Ed Davis, Dante Exum and Georges Niang.
the front office needs to do something somehow. Not sure how with few assets though
Snyder is also back to giving the Australian guard those weirdly short stints that Exum alone seems to frequently get. Starting with the game against the Pels, Exum’s non-garbage time runs have equaled 5:09, 4:23, 6:40, 2:27, 1:41, 1:15 and :31 — an average of just over three minutes per appearance. To be clear, he largely hasn’t played well, outside of some isolated moments here and there. But it’s hard to show much, or establish any sort of feel in three-minute stints.
If you're the 4th highest paid player on the team you should show something no matter how much time you get
Take Mudiay, for example. The reserve guard had a rough first quarter on Saturday. He missed defensive assignments, drove into crowds without a plan, and turned the ball over. But Snyder stuck with him, and Mudiay rewarded that patience with one of his nicest games of the season. He had 11 points and seven assists for the game, and helped the Jazz pull away from Memphis. For whatever reason, Exum hasn’t been given that same leeway recently. He obviously needs to take responsibility for ensuring that he’s ready to contribute as soon as his sneakers hit the hardwood, but it might help if he occasionally had the same runway that others in the rotation are given.
He's had 5 plus years of runway. Looks like Quin may have finally given up on him. Now if they could somehow trade that horrible contract for some help or even a roster spot
The Jazz have the worst bench in the NBA. There will be a little more on this tomorrow. The starters deserve better than this. The starting 5 can play great minutes (not tonight) and they will be completely vanished by a few bench minutes. It’s getting overly predictable at this point. Like the Stockton and Malone pick and roll, you know what’s going to happen and there’s nothing you can do about.
I think you could try do something about it instead of just sending Mitchell out with the 4 bench guys over and over again
Obviously health has played a role in that. But come one, you can’t tell me Exum is actually worse this year than he was as a rookie. He came in really late into the game and made a nice little impact. He played some good D, drove hard to the rim for a nice layup. Brought some nice energy. But one bad pass and bam he’s back on the bench after just a couple minutes of playing. How’s a kid supposed to play with any confidence or game sense if that’s always in the back of his head?
as a rookie Trey Burke was their only other option. Not about him being worse just about him never being very good and the other options improving. 9 million reasons to play with confidence
A possible reason for the Jazz flying under the radar is the minimal chatter about their rising star, Donovan Mitchell. The young jet is continuing to develop his game but with the sharp rise of young superstars such as Luka Doncic and Trae Young, Mitchell has almost become the forgotten star in the West and despite being the No.1 player on the Jazz roster.
Re: 2019-20 season - Been waiting two decades for this one!
Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert: “We’re not playing the way we want to play, and we’re not the team that we can be. So it’s frustrating. All the other teams can see it, and they just come and go at us. … We just forget about what’s important and we fall back into our demons.” pic.twitter.com/yzfh8A3D2h – via Twitter tribjazz
Eric Walden: Rudy, on the Jazz’s lack of physicality: “Every team is being physical with us, because they watch the game. Teams that watched tonight, they’re gonna see that every time someone’s physical with us, they just take us out of what we want to do, and keep doing it.” pic.twitter.com/f3GgkMvAR5 – via Twitter tribjazz
Eric Walden: Joe Ingles: “The ball movement, we got kind of stuck. They were going under a lot of pick-and-rolls … in that situation, whoever it is needs to be ready to shoot or to make a play.” pic.twitter.com/hyWZRRTHt5 – via Twitter tribjazz