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Old 03-11-2018, 08:51 PM   #61
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Default Re: If you're still saying KD > Curry, you're ignorant

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That core was an insane -60 points per 100 possessions without Westbrook on the floor.

Literally the worst supporting cast of any star in the playoffs ever.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about here. But keep typing names like it validates his help.

Harden is 2nd in RPM this year, while Russ is 16th. What's the excuse now?
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:52 PM   #62
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I like Russ, but if y'all want to continue disrespecting Harden I have to drop facts.

Lame comeback

I've been doing the "LeBron James Harden" for a while, try actually engaging instead of dritfting off to "I gotta protect my mans" lol
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:53 PM   #63
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Harden is 2nd in RPM this year, while Russ is 16th. What's the excuse now?

Westbrook: +11.0 on/off
Harden: +6.9 on/off

come again
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:53 PM   #64
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all these peeps saying curry is better than durant

come crunch time it ain't curry burying 3's in lebrons face
WHOA, ETHER
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:54 PM   #65
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Warriors are 11-5 with Durant but without Steph this season. This is hardly bad for a team missing one of their best 2 players.

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Isn't Durant one of the favorites for DPOTY?

He shouldn't be. He's not even the best defensive player on his team and the warriors have just a mid-tier defense.. If he makes 1st team All-D then it's hype driven and undeserved. 2nd team I can see, but wouldn't even be an issue for me if he missed out here also.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:54 PM   #66
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Westbrook: +11.0 on/off
Harden: +6.9 on/off

come again

RPM is a MUCH better indicator than straight on/off.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:55 PM   #67
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Warriors are 11-5 with Durant but without Steph this season. This is hardly bad for a team missing one of their best 2 players.



He shouldn't be. He's not even the best defensive player on his team and the warriors have just a mid-tier defense.. If he makes 1st team All-D then it's hype driven and undeserved. 2nd team I can see, but wouldn't even be an issue for me if he missed out here also.

and yet, it is bad if that team has two other All-NBA teamers and the guy playing wants to claim a top 3 worldwide spot. Particularly underwhelming when that guy missing (Curry) was able to win 73 games with the same team.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:56 PM   #68
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Harden has a better/higher PER, VORP, RPM, EFF, WS, TS%...

So whats your argument again?
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:57 PM   #69
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It's not about them winning by a 3 pointer in a 7 game series its the fact that they won 4 out of the last 5 games in that series. 3 wins by double figures. They had their number and weren't mentally shook like they were coming into the series, having lost 5 straight to them. Curry injured yet he averaged a lot of minutes and had similar scoring stats /percentages the next season? Bogut was a net negative for the series. How was losing him detrimental? Dray got suspended one game. The next game he played the Cavs won by one less point than they did the game he didn't play.iggy got "hurt" the same game that Kyrie, a more important player got hurt.

Cavs win three straight years with healthy Kyrie and love and no KD. You know this. Curry was shook of lebron end of that series.

You are coming off like the typical Clevelander that wants to pretend that the Cavs beat a fully healthy non injured 73 win team. Don't be that person. We have enough of them around here. I can't tell you how many I've had to set straight. The ones I talked to see the light and apply proper context.

You forget that against a fully healthy GSW team the very next year + KD, the same Cavs squad set 6 world records in a single finals game. Not only were the Cavs just that stacked, but Bogut was so critical prior to injury that Lebron literally begged the front office to sign him the following year. Then as already mentioned in 2016, you have a hobbled Curry and Iggy both playing on pain killers and Dray suspended for a critical game 5. GSW was so injured that for the first time in finals history, 2 guys on the same team both scored 41+ points and on high efficiency. 2016 chip is like the 2015 chip. Both are a wash because the winning team was playing against a team that was a shell of themselves.

2017 is what mattered most and the Cavs were fully capable of winning (check the record books) but Lebron decided to not play any defense.
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:59 PM   #70
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Warriors are 11-5 with Durant but without Steph this season. This is hardly bad for a team missing one of their best 2 players.



He shouldn't be. He's not even the best defensive player on his team and the warriors have just a mid-tier defense.. If he makes 1st team All-D then it's hype driven and undeserved. 2nd team I can see, but wouldn't even be an issue for me if he missed out here also.
That's also without context as Dray was injured early in the season and Durant led many injury riddled teams (not just Curry)


Not that it really ****ing matters anyhow, the only way we can judge them is what happens in June (where we know Durant will win another FMVP because his game doesn't fall off a cliff in the finals)

that is ultimately how we judge superstars on the same team. It's why Shaq is 10 or so spots ahead of Kobe on the all-time list and why LeBron is like 30 above Wade


Sorry, but you gotta perform in the finals. Durant has exceeded expectations in the finals and Curry has drastically under-performed overall

Those are just the facts
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Old 03-11-2018, 08:59 PM   #71
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Insidehoops..... where defense doesn't matter.
fourkicks..... where defense matters more than wins and every other metric
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:04 PM   #72
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fourkicks..... where defense matters more than wins and every other metric

Insidehoops......where if you didn't get to actually watch MJ play, showing up to the finals equates to actually winning the finals.
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:06 PM   #73
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He shouldn't be. He's not even the best defensive player on his team and the warriors have just a mid-tier defense.. If he makes 1st team All-D then it's hype driven and undeserved. 2nd team I can see, but wouldn't even be an issue for me if he missed out here also.

Yeah ok I'm not going to dispute that. I think a lot of the hype is driven by his blocks per game average.

What I was alluding to was his defensive impact compared to Curry's.

Curry wouldn't make the All-Defense 100th team.
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:06 PM   #74
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Kyrie had a knee injury that required him to have surgery. The knee still bothers him to this day to the point where he's sitting out the second half of a game tonight because of it yet golden state fans making excuses for curry who required no surgery and only missed a couple weeks due to a knee strain lol funny stuff
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:06 PM   #75
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Insidehoops......where if you didn't get to actually watch MJ play, showing up to the finals equates to actually winning the finals.

Hey mid-life crisis, guess what?

No one gives a flying f*ck about MJ right now. Go get off to some unmastered, grainy youtube clips.
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