don't forget Bush is a war criminal

[boozehound]

Originally Posted by blondie

Why aren't you guys throwing bitch fits about other nations like Russia, Germany and France physically beating the shit out of their prisoners, and using other forms of torture? If anything you guys should be more outraged at those nations using torture techniques that can possibly cause permanent damage or death, compared to George Bush using a form of what amounts to psychological torture with no physical harm done?

Nearly every other first world nation is worse than us and still you guys are throwing little girl tantrums about waterboarding, simply because Bill Maher told you to hate Bush


for the record Im not republican and think Bush was a bad president too

By your definition of war criminal-using torture-every leader in the world is currently a war criminal. Come on bozos use your heads, Slobodan Milosevic was a war criminal, Bush was just a dumbass politician

I am not a citizen of those countries, so those actions were not done in my name. how is pointing this out throwing a "***** fit"?

[kaiteng]

We are all just a bunch of ignorant people.

[boozehound]

Originally Posted by blondie

Why throw a tantrum when we treat our prisoners better than basically every other developed nation in the world besides the scandanavians? You just want something to complain and whine about, like a bitch

and this is based on? You act like all other first world nations have oodles of POWs who they torture on a daily basis. Wanna back that up with a single article or stat? of course you dont. And, yes, before the bush admin, the US government (at the very least the DOD) did not use torture in its interrogations.



as usual, you are puffed up and condescending when your opinion is not based on any factual data or reality. I would think that you would learn a little humility after having your strongly held opinions proven to be bunk time and time again on this website.


Now, if you are talking just prisoners in the US? Sure the treatment isnt barbaric. but we do have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.

[Hawker]

George W. Bush does have a badass ranch. That interview with Sean Hannity was pretty good. He seems at peace with himself and didn't feel the need to trash the current administration.

And I believe he really thought Iraq had WMDs but it ended up being a mistake. I know that's not good enough in a lot of people's minds but I think that's just the reality of it. Not some conspiracy-theory bullshit to get more money out of stocks bought from companies working over there now.

[Eggy]

Originally Posted by boozehound

and this is based on? You act like all other first world nations have oodles of POWs who they torture on a daily basis. Wanna back that up with a single article or stat? of course you dont. And, yes, before the bush admin, the US government (at the very least the DOD) did not use torture in its interrogations.



as usual, you are puffed up and condescending when your opinion is not based on any factual data or reality. I would think that you would learn a little humility after having your strongly held opinions proven to be bunk time and time again on this website.


Now, if you are talking just prisoners in the US? Sure the treatment isnt barbaric. but we do have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.

lol?

[Sarcastic]

Bush was just a puppet. Cheney ran the whole show.

[IcanzIIravor]

Originally Posted by blondie

You are naive and stupid enough to believe that the USA doesn't torture prisoners too?

We did some things in the war on terror that we didn't have to do. If we didn't do them with the threat of Soviet Russia looming we didn't have to in regards to these rag tag terrorists. If you know anything about the water boarding we did then you know the guys we did it to gave us valuable intel but also gave us a bunch of garbage that sent us on wild goose chases that wasted valuable man power and time too. There are far better methods of extracting intel, but the Bush administration panicked and it led to sloppy work that helped and screwed us at the same time. There is a reason a lot of seasoned experts at extracting intel came out against such methods.

[Riddler]

Originally Posted by blondie

You are naive and stupid enough to believe that the USA doesn't torture prisoners too?

hey I never said that America doesn't torture prisoners... they even torture innocent citizens.

I believe their are certain elements within America that do some real shady $hit.

my only point was that we can never allow torture to be legal.