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Old 07-10-2011, 04:12 PM   #16
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

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Okay, everyone knows they're defended differently.

If it's that obvious, find me these clips of defenders giving LeBron a lot more airspace the past season than Kobe. It shouldn't be hard.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:13 PM   #17
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

imo, between Kobe, Lebron, and DWade....
DWade is the hardest to defend right now. He is like a younger Kobe...just too many offensive skills.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:14 PM   #18
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

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Pathetic. Instead of trying to prove your point via actual video, you resort to asking a bunch perception-led idiots for the answer.

Way to wave the white flag.
Well I had this argument with Lebron23, and I did provide enough video. And won. Or atleast I think I did seeing as he stopped posting completely.

Not gonna bother digging it up though. Just open your mind and actually watch the games.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:38 PM   #19
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

well duh
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:46 PM   #20
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

This is a question directed to indian guy. Are you saying that james and bryants ability to make jumpshots are similar? And thus they must be played in the same way defensively? And by this I mean 18ft on out.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:47 PM   #21
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

Lol Lebrick gets like 5 feet of airspace on jumpers while Kobe is lucky to have a couple inches of space
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:51 PM   #22
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

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Pathetic. Instead of trying to prove your point via actual video, you resort to asking a bunch perception-led idiots for the answer.

Way to wave the white flag.

Kobe Bryant Vs Lebron James | Shootout at their Summer Camp

Kobe - 5/6 (83%)

Lebron - 1/5 (20%)


This is for Indian-Guy who claims Lebron's jumpshot and Kobe's are equal. There you go, they even both got the same defensive treatment aswell.
Just like the Finals...

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Old 07-10-2011, 04:58 PM   #23
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

you can still win if you give lebron some open looks for jump shots

you will die if you give kobe one too many open looks

i dont know about wade, give him a bit of space he'll slash in and draw a foul or get an easy shot
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:58 PM   #24
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are defended differently. LeBron is given a little more space on his jump shot because he isn't exactly automatic from mid range and the extra space enables defenders to better defend and discourage his attempts to drive.

Bryant however is often picked up at or just a little below the three point line because he is a threat from mid range and higher, even when he's not hitting shots. Defenders rarely give him space on jump shots because he's proven time and again that he can catch fire quickly and with a player like him, it's best to stay in his face and consistently challenge his shots so that he doesn't find a rhythm.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:09 PM   #25
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Looks like no one has yet to agree with Indian-guy.

Okay IG, here are more videos. This one from the finals.
Look at the amount of space Lebron got on all his jumpers and yet he missed them without the defender even raising his hands! Imagine Kobe having that amount of space and his defender refusing to contest the shot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lk62bXKw7w&t=1m3s

From the one minute mark to the two minute mark.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:10 PM   #26
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

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Kobe Bryant Vs Lebron James | Shootout at their Summer Camp

Kobe - 5/6 (83%)

Lebron - 1/5 (20%)


This is for Indian-Guy who claims Lebron's jumpshot and Kobe's are equal. There you go, they even both got the same defensive treatment aswell.
Just like the Finals...
Holy crap! at least Kob didn't embrass himself like Bron did and resorted to dunking over a little kid
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:38 PM   #27
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Default Re: Jumpshooting - Are LeBron James and Kobe Bryant "defended" differently?

Indidan Guy is right that teams did start defending Lebron much more like Kobe as the year went on.


However, the truth is that teams would still rather see Lebron take jumpers and Kobe drive to the hoop.

Lebron's shooting, up until the finals, was very good this year. No doubt about it. However, teams still sagged off him this year quite a bit. I think that played a big role in Lebron's shooting numbers spiking a bit.

Give Lebron some credit though. He got space and for the most part this year continued to knock down jumpers night in night out.


But no, they are not defended the same for the most part. Kobe is a better shooter. If he got defended the way Lebron still does, he'd make more shots.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:42 PM   #28
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Almost 3 pages - Indian guy is still on an island by himself.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:06 PM   #29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lk62bXKw7w&t=1m3s

From the one minute mark to the two minute mark.

Its amazing that not ONE of those shots were contested and he still missed them.

WOW!
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:08 PM   #30
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Almost 3 pages - Indian guy is still on an island by himself.

Well, as the song says... one is the loneliest number... That said, someone will eventually co-sign.
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