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Old 10-24-2012, 10:22 PM   #16
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From Georgetown, at 6'10" and wearing #33..........Alonzo Mourning!!!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:41 PM   #17
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:25 AM   #18
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Old 10-25-2012, 05:43 AM   #19
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:49 AM   #20
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Why are people voting for Dave Bing over Earl Monroe?

This seems terribly wrong and I live in the city Bing is mayor of and even voted for him.

At their peak Monroe was better. He took Bing's All-NBA first team spot as a second year player.

Monroe adjusted more to players around him. When the struggling Bullets added star center Wes Unseld they became a title contender. When the struggling Pistons added Bob Lanier they got slightly better.

When Monroe left for contending New York he helped the Knicks when a title playing a major role, when Bing left for contending Washington, they went from Finals appearance in 1975 to two down years with Bing, then an NBA title in 1978 after Bing left. Not blaming that on Dave, but Earl Monroe seems to have a much stronger case to me.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:39 PM   #21
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Why are people voting for Dave Bing over Earl Monroe?

This seems terribly wrong and I live in the city Bing is mayor of and even voted for him.

At their peak Monroe was better. He took Bing's All-NBA first team spot as a second year player.

Monroe adjusted more to players around him. When the struggling Bullets added star center Wes Unseld they became a title contender. When the struggling Pistons added Bob Lanier they got slightly better.

When Monroe left for contending New York he helped the Knicks when a title playing a major role, when Bing left for contending Washington, they went from Finals appearance in 1975 to two down years with Bing, then an NBA title in 1978 after Bing left. Not blaming that on Dave, but Earl Monroe seems to have a much stronger case to me.
Not making a case either way, here's a breakdown.

11 published lists have Monroe higher.
5 have Bing higher.
(Totals include Charlie Rosen and ESPNs online rankings, without them its 10-4)

So not a blowout but in the majority of cases Monroe is placed higher.

By accolades Bing has 2 first team all NBA, 1 Second team and 7 ASG appearances, 2 top five MVP finishes, 3 top ten.
Monroe 1 first team, no second teams, 4 ASGs, no top 10 MVP finishes.
By accolades at the time then, Bing holds an advantage.

Bing has the better single year peak by PER, Win Shares and WS/48.
Monroe has the better career by both Win Share metrics (where Bing is punished for playing on a losing team) wheras PER which emphaises scoring suggests Bing is better per minute over their careers (and he played more minutes over his career).
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:08 PM   #22
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Monroe seems to get the icon status that's bumps him up. He gets the Pistole Pete treatment. I think a few years back, SLAM had him ranked number 28 all time, 20 freakin 8. I mean they played in the exact same era and Bing got more accolades. Of course Pearl played with much better teammates in Washington and NYC.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:12 PM   #23
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:47 PM   #24
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I'm going to go ahead and vote for Blake Griffin

yep, that's right
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:48 PM   #25
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