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Old 11-13-2013, 03:44 PM   #31
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Default Re: So all of a sudden we are headed toward "Global Cooling" now?

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any reputable news sites?

or any reputable scientists?

or any reputable publications/scientific papers?

such as?

why are the scientists in the OP not reputable?
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:45 PM   #32
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also Keyless...they aren't saying Global Warming was a "hoax" they are saying we are now headed toward a cooling period...
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:47 PM   #33
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Using a single year's ice extent to purport a global trend is nonsense, especially when ice extent is subject to natural variability. A much better indicator would be total ice volume.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:49 PM   #34
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also Keyless...they aren't saying Global Warming was a "hoax" they are saying we are now headed toward a cooling period...

No scientist calls it "global warming", its called "global climate change" for a reason. While some areas may indeed be cooling down, others are obviously warming up.

BTW, you might want to stop linking articles from the daily caller, they are not exactly an unbiased source

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The Daily Caller is a politically conservative[1][2] news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States. Founded by Tucker Carlson, a conservative political pundit, and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney, The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010. In late 2012, it was reported that the site had quadrupled its page view and total audience and had become profitable without ever buying an advertisement for itself.[3]

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Old 11-13-2013, 03:54 PM   #35
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Scambos also cautioned against relying on a single year to indicate a new trend of global cooling. There is simply not enough data. “We can’t use year-to-year variability to imply that the Earth is no longer warming,” Scambos said. “The decadal trend remains quite clear.” NSIDC scientist Mark Serreze also urges taking a longer view. He said, “The pattern over the last 100 years has been characterized by overall warming, with signals of natural climate variability.”

The underlying cause of sea ice decline—atmospheric warming caused by high levels of CO2 in the atmosphere—has not changed. Scientists expect some variability from year to year due to wind and weather patterns. This means it is well within the bounds of normal sea ice behavior to see some increase after last year’s record low. “We may even recover for a few more years,” Serreze said. “However, the long term trend is downward, and will continue to be downward.”
http://nsidc.org/icelights/2013/09/16/are-we-cooling/

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Old 11-13-2013, 03:55 PM   #36
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No scientist calls it "global warming", its called "global climate change" for a reason. While some areas may indeed be cooling down, others are obviously warming up.
I don't think anyone is debating whether or not the climate is "changing"...the debate is whether it is getting warmer or colder...overall
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:56 PM   #37
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not really just ONE year...although this year seems to be particularly cold and maybe sparking the debates...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-prove-it.html

seems we have been at a stand still for 16 years now
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:58 PM   #38
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such as?

why are the scientists in the OP not reputable?

well, they arent specifically referred to

they just say 'scientists believe' without saying who these people are.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:04 PM   #39
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well, they arent specifically referred to

they just say 'scientists believe' without saying who these people are.
yeah that's why I have been putting "scientists" in quotes in this thread

I am not sure what a "reputable" source on this would be but those articles I posted seemed unbiased and informative to me...it isn't like they are globalwarmingisBS.com
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Professor Anastasios Tsonis, of the University of Wisconsin, said: "We are already in a cooling trend, which I think will continue for the next 15 years at least. There is no doubt the warming of the 1980s and 1990s has stopped.”

last article in the OP gives a name out
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:08 PM   #41
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I am not sure what a "reputable" source on this would be but those articles I posted seemed unbiased and informative to me...it isn't like they are globalwarmingisBS.com

a reputable source is definitely NOT the dailymail or dailycaller, that much is for sure.

find a peer reviewed scientific paper on global cooling, shouldnt be hard if all these scientists are supposedly studying it
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:11 PM   #42
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However, US climate expert Professor Judith Curry has questioned how this can be true as that rather than increasing in confidence, “uncertainty is getting bigger” within the academic community.

Long-term cycles in ocean temperature, she said, suggest the world may be approaching a period similar to that from 1965 to 1975, when there was a clear cooling trend.

At the time some scientists forecast an imminent ice age.

that was in the OP as well

"US climate expert Professor" sound reputable to me...
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:22 PM   #43
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not really just ONE year...although this year seems to be particularly cold and maybe sparking the debates...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-prove-it.html

seems we have been at a stand still for 16 years now
Answer this question. Is the difference between global mean temps in 16 years a meaningful quantity?
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #44
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Answer this question. Is the difference between global mean temps in 16 years a meaningful quantity?
that's debatable according to that article

one person saying 16 years is too short, another saying 16 years to be in a standstill is very meaningful
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:27 PM   #45
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Not really:

'He said, “The pattern over the last 100 years has been characterized by overall warming, with signals of natural climate variability.”'

100 years is still minuscule in relation to the lifespan of the planet. Thus a hundred year sample can be just as subject to natural climate variability as a 10 or 20 year sample.
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