Is Kevin Durant above Tracy McGrady in the all-time list?

[ShaqAttack3234]

ShaqAttack, I have nothing to argue with in your post. It seems like we both agree and disagree in certain points but for the most part we are on the same page.

How many more elite seasons do you think Durant will have to have in order to surpass Tmac, or is it not the seasons that matters but just his style of play? If you look at both of their careers and accomplishments, Durant has already surpassed Tmac and I think it is hard to argue against that.

You mentioned TS% earlier about how in Tmac's time it was a different and tougher league to score in, so I just wanted to show you the TS% comparison to the league average at the time.

I got it from this thread....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=239585

The +/- show their TS% compared to the league average of TS%.

Tracy McGrady TS% from '00 to '08

'00-'01 Tmac: 52.1% +0.3
'01-'02 Tmac: 53.2% +1.2
'02-'03 Tmac: 56.4% +4.5
'03-'04 Tmac: 52.6% +0.6
'04-'05 Tmac: 52.6% -0.4
'05-'06 Tmac: 49.4% -4.1
'06-'07 Tmac: 51.5% -2.6
'07-'08 Tmac: 48.7% -5.3

Kevin Durant TS% from '08 to '11 (using '11 since Durant's '11-'12 stats will change on any given night)

'08-'09 Durant: 57.7% +3.2
'09-'10 Durant: 60.7% +6.4
'10-'11 Durant: 58.9% +4.7


I'll do the same for eFG% between the two as well.


Tracy McGrady eFG% from '00 to '08

'00-'01 Tmac: 47.4% +0.1
'01-'02 Tmac: 48.3% +0.6
'02-'03 Tmac: 50.5% +3.2
'03-'04 Tmac: 47.3% +0.2
'04-'05 Tmac: 47.3% -0.9
'05-'06 Tmac: 44.2% -4.7
'06-'07 Tmac: 47.4% -2.2
'07-'08 Tmac: 45.2% -4.6

Kevin Durant eFG% from '08 to '11

'08-'09 Durant: 51.0% +1.1
'09-'10 Durant: 51.4% +1.3
'10-'11 Durant: 53.9% +4.1


I know you never argued otherwise, but it seems like Durant has Tmac beat in efficiency regardless of the era.

Yeah, exactly, I'm not disputing that from a statistical standpoint that Durant was more efficient regardless of era, just that the difference is made larger because of eras.

As you can see, T-Mac's '03 season vs league average in TS% was almost identical to the advantage Durant had over league average in '11 and on 32.1 ppg vs Durant's 27.7 in '11.

Durant's '10 season shows a much bigger advantage in TS%, though I do think that is somewhat skewed by what I consider an excessive amount of free throws, there's no doubt that will gain an advantage due to being a superior free throw shooter regardless, and that can't be disregarded because it's a part of the game. And despite that, T-Mac scored 2 more ppg in '03 vs Durant in '10 and did so while being much less turnover prone and then you can compare their playoff series.

Durant in '10 vs Lakers(103.7 defensive rating)- 25 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.3 apg, 3.7 TO, 35 FG%, 49.9 TS%, 6 games
T-Mac in '03 vs Pistons(99.9 defensive rating)- 31.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 3.7 TO, 44.8 FG%, 56.1 TS%, 7 games

So, to me, McGrady's '03 season is more impressive from a scoring standpoint, both statistically and as far as what I watched.

In other prime T-Mac seasons, it's more his all around game that gives him the edge.

As far as Durant passing T-Mac on my list. Well, it's inevitable barring injuries. A couple of more extended playoff runs and Durant playing at this level, or improving over the next few years will do it.

[teddytwelvetoes]

Wow, I misread that as Kevin Garnett at first...almost had a heart attack.