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Old 04-22-2017, 02:15 AM   #76
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F/F will never be the same as M/F no matter how you much society wants to degrade gender roles. There are innate and natural attributes that a female lesbian will never have of a man. Insecure and depressed feminists can't keep denying nature and thousands of years of history.
Single mothers/fathers will never be the same as M/F either, ban divorces.

Also, history has proven white middle aged men are on top of the foodchain, Africans arent. Lets keep everything the way it has been for ages. Right?
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Old 04-22-2017, 02:29 AM   #77
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There's animals that eat their own feces. I suppose their is a purpose.
there are known purposes, yes. in termites for example, an@l trophallaxis is used to transfer essential bacteria from old to young. without that bacteria, the individual would not be able to digest the cellulose they need to survive.

in science, probiotic balance is increasingly seen as vital for human health. one of the more well-known and current methods of building healthy gut flora is the ingestion of "poop pills." such pills consist of dried fecal matter from donor subjects with healthy biotic balance.

so yeah, humans eating human excrement for purposes of good health. we probably knew about this long ago and then forgot about in the "progress" of civilisation.

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But we can't judge things based on if it exists in the animal world. Some animals do some ****ed up things.
we can't judge the animal world from our POV, regardless. that's because the only thing that matters in nature is whether something works or not.

homosexuality clearly works in nature and has been found to have beneficial purpose.

however, if you look through recent human history, i think you will find that institutions such as the roman catholic church specifically designed the bible for purposes of control. controlling aspects of peoples lives, such as who can mate and who can't, was clearly a huge part of that. they had strong motives to promote a surge in population around that time, and things like homosexuality obviously went against that.
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Old 04-22-2017, 02:33 AM   #78
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Single mothers/fathers will never be the same as M/F either, ban divorces.

Also, history has proven white middle aged men are on top of the foodchain, Africans arent. Lets keep everything the way it has been for ages. Right?

Recognition and observation of cultural patterns =/= a proposal to ban anything.

And divorce doesn't mean that the father/mother is not there or won't be replaced by a mother or father figure on either side in the future. Divorce is something that isn't look upon as favorable which is ok. There may be a mom/dad missing for a portion of the week but they aren't completely invisible.

And there is IQ evidence for your last statement and recognition of that isn't racist or an intent to "keep black people down." You can make collective observations but oppose discrimination at the individual level.
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Old 04-22-2017, 10:17 AM   #79
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Not talking about bible days. USA is a great country and is built upon straight people raising kids. As is every other successful western country today. It wasn't built on sperm banks. You are under the fallacy that everything that happens today is progress because it's labelled as progress.
It's progress because it gives more humans more rights/freedoms

NOT allowing gays to get married or have kids is progress how exactly???



Jesus Christ...smh
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Old 04-22-2017, 10:22 AM   #80
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Recognition and observation of cultural patterns =/= a proposal to ban anything.

Then why bring it up at all?


If we both agree the 2017 Lexus ES is the greatest car ever made...does that mean we are disgusted with all other cars?
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Old 04-22-2017, 05:18 PM   #81
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one method i often use for judging human behavior is to ask whether said behavior can be found in nature. thus...


1) are there animals that exhibit homosexuality in nature?

2) is there any benefit to their species?


haha, well to be fair rape fits that, too.

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Old 04-22-2017, 05:35 PM   #82
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haha, well to be fair rape fits that, too.

-Smak
it does, and yet rape is actually much rarer and less useful than homosexuality AFAIK.

that's probably because it cuts way down on the selection process. i.e. if a female is able to select a male, she'll tend to genetically outcompete a female that gets raped. i.e. choice beats non-choice.

when sexual coercion starts to happen with regularity, that's when the situation usually turns in to an arms race, as with geese and ducks.

http://www.livescience.com/4426-duck...l-warfare.html
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Old 04-22-2017, 05:41 PM   #83
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it does, and yet rape is actually much rarer and less useful than homosexuality AFAIK.


I wouldn't say that until you've given both a legit chance.

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Old 04-22-2017, 06:08 PM   #84
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I wouldn't say that until you've given both a legit chance.

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we need a comedy club drummer for that one.
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