Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-16-2017, 06:04 PM   #1
eliteballer
Very good NBA starter
 
eliteballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,166
Default Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Quote:
NBA commissioner Adam Silver has observed a sudden shift in market trends in college basketball just as a massive scandal involving agents, coaches and shoe companies has overwhelmed the sport.

The combination, he said Monday, will likely cause the end of the NBA’s so-called “one-and-done” rule, which would dramatically alter how young basketball talent is developed while changing how college teams are built.

Quote:
Silver, for his part, cited three things that have dramatically shifted. The scandals are one. “It’s clearly not working for the college game,” Silver said. Second is the increase in one-and-done players declaring for the draft. There were 16 last year. Silver said the average had been about eight per year.

And finally, it appears more top recruits don’t care about where they go to college and are just biding their time until draft night. This may be most concerning to the NBA because it impacts the league directly.

“What’s really interesting to me is the last two No. 1 picks in the NBA draft, Ben Simmons two years ago and Markelle Fultz last year, both played with teams that did not make the NCAA tournament [LSU and Washington, respectively],” Silver said. “And I don’t think enough people are talking about that. That seems to be a sea change.

“It’s become common knowledge that these so-called one-and-done players, maybe understandably, are almost entirely focused on where they are going to go in the draft lottery. Not to say they don’t badly care about winning but … the stakes are so high in terms of the amount of money they can make over a long NBA career.”

Quote:
“From our standpoint, if the players in that one year of college aren’t getting the kind of development we’d like to see them get coming into the NBA, aren’t playing in the NCAA tournament, aren’t competing against top-notch competition, I think we have to take a step back and figure out whether we are better off taking those players at a younger age and working on their training and development full time,” Silver said.

Quote:
There could be other routes too. In the past Silver has discussed a zero-or-two deal to replace the one-and-done, essentially making a player come out right away or stay in the NCAA for two seasons. It’s similar to the way MLB does it.

There is also the NHL model where the NCAA allows drafted players to compete in college hockey. It’s true. Cale Makar was selected fourth overall in the 2017 NHL draft by the Colorado Avalanche. He is currently playing for the University of Massachusetts. He could stay four years or join the Avs after the current UMass season. It’s the way Boston University star Charlie McAvoy joined the Boston Bruins for last spring’s NHL playoffs, just days after BU was knocked out of the NCAA tournament. College hockey players can’t be paid by their NHL clubs, but what if the NCAA offered to loosen its rules on that and include NBA draft picks.

Quote:
Silver has already reached out to union president Michele Roberts and noted they don’t need to wait until 2024, when the collective-bargaining agreement is up. He wants Chris Paul from the union and Michael Jordan for the owners to run point on this.

More here:

https://sports.yahoo.com/adam-silver...170421752.html
eliteballer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 06:25 PM   #2
FreezingTsmoove
The Sheriff
 
FreezingTsmoove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,491
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Cant believe Silver is destroying college basketball because of Fultz and Simmons not making the tournament
FreezingTsmoove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:01 PM   #3
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 22,371
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezingTsmoove
Cant believe Silver is destroying college basketball because of Fultz and Simmons not making the tournament
NCAA was fine for years when guys like KG and Kobe skipped school. Nor would it have mattered for college overall if the last two Sixers hadn't pretended to go to college for a semester.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:25 PM   #4
Nash
Very good NBA starter
 
Nash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 8,532
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

who cares? let the players declare for the nba after high school. If you think the have potential, pick them. If you don't think they have potential, then don't.
Nash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:26 PM   #5
fourkicks44
You Down With TTP?
 
fourkicks44's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Super Dario World
Posts: 2,249
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

It is a simple fix and it is the NCAA that need to change.

Kids should be able to declare straight from highschool but if the don't get drafted they should still be able to retain there eligibility.
fourkicks44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:29 PM   #6
Sarcastic
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
 
Sarcastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Latvian Ladder
Posts: 24,516
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezingTsmoove
Cant believe Silver is destroying college basketball because of Fultz and Simmons not making the tournament


NCAA destroyed itself with corruption and scandal.
Sarcastic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:31 PM   #7
warriorfan
The Bully
 
warriorfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 18,544
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Adam Silver being captain obvious over here
warriorfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:41 PM   #8
Ben Simmons
Decent college freshman
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 2,952
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Quote:
Originally Posted by fourkicks44
It is a simple fix and it is the NCAA that need to change.

Kids should be able to declare straight from highschool but if the don't get drafted they should still be able to retain there eligibility.
This.

Steps to fix this debacle

1) Students shouldn't be paid by the school, but any endorsement money is theirs to keep. This is America, stop trying to not let individuals prosper. Yes certain schools will offer higher visibility for endorsements
2) Students who do receive endorsement money should pay back their scholarship tuition once they make double of whatever their tuition cost. Doesn't make sense to waste scholarship money on people who don't need it.
3) Students can come straight out of high school, go overseas, do college whatever they think is best. If they declare for the draft they can still go back to school if not drafted
4)NBA should invest and expand the D League to compensate for out of high school players

Last edited by Ben Simmons : 10-16-2017 at 08:30 PM.
Ben Simmons is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:42 PM   #9
FireDavidKahn
The Puppeteer
 
FireDavidKahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,801
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Would be good for everyone.
FireDavidKahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 07:44 PM   #10
FireDavidKahn
The Puppeteer
 
FireDavidKahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,801
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Simmons
This.

Steps to fix this debacle

1) Students shouldn't be paid by the school, but any endorsement money is theirs to keep. This is America, stop trying to let individuals prosper. Yes certain schools will offer higher visibility for endorsements
2) Students who do receive endorsement money should pay back their scholarship tuition once they make double of whatever their tuition cost. Doesn't make sense to waste scholarship money on people who don't need it.
3) Students can come straight out of high school, go overseas, do college whatever they think is best. If they declare for the draft they can still go back to school if not drafted
4)NBA should invest and expand the D League to compensate for out of high school players
That is actually an incredible idea.
FireDavidKahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 08:54 PM   #11
FireDavidKahn
The Puppeteer
 
FireDavidKahn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,801
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Also, it needs to be pointed out...the one and done rule is basically the entire reason why the NCAA has become what it currently is.

Paying hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly for prospects who will be done in a year, sex, etc...if the minimum becomes two years than the same blue blood schools can't keep up at the same pace as before since they wont have as big of a turnover rate of players.
FireDavidKahn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2017, 10:07 PM   #12
qrich
King Heno
 
qrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tucson/520!
Posts: 21,930
Default Re: Adam Silver sees the end of One and Done

Not going to touch paying college athletes, but the NHL idea is genius and needs to be adopted asap.

Allowing a player to remain in the NCAA after being drafted (so as long as they don't sign with an agent, under current rules) is the way to go.
qrich is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:34 AM.




NBA BASKETBALL FORUM KEY LINKS:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
Search Site

FOLLOW US
Twitter
Facebook
















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy