why is "The Shot" so famous

[kennethgriffin]

kobe shot 6/24 in a game 7 and this guy talks about Jordan being bailed out.

6 rings, 6 FMVPs, no finals game 7.

kobe helped win the game for LA though at the end with a key shot/assist with legendary defense/rebounding for a finals game

no 1 guy won that game 7. it was a collective effort and boston shooting themselves in the foot

[K Xerxes]

cause fishers shot didnt win kobe sh*t ( nore was it in the finals )

You're right. Since we're talking about finals, Shaq won Kobe 3 rings, and Artest won his last one.

The great Kobe Bryant with one ring and a lifetime achievement MVP to rule them all.

[kennethgriffin]

I'm a huge Kobe/Lakers fan but...

Kobe's shot against the Pacers in the Finals WASN'T a game winner. (they were already up 1)

it sealed the game... it basically was the winner. if not officially. it was theoretically

still a better/more impressive/more meaningful shot than jordans against the cavs

[Beastmode88]

Agenda thread... MJ > Kobe in the clutch.

[navy]

it sealed the game... it basically was the winner. if not officially. it was theoretically

still a better/more impressive/more meaningful shot than jordans against the cavs

Counting near game winners now?

[kennethgriffin]

You're right. Since we're talking about finals, Shaq won Kobe 3 rings, and Artest won his last one.

The great Kobe Bryant with one ring and a lifetime achievement MVP to rule them all.

we're talking about making key shots. and kobe hit most of the key shots for shaq. not the other way around

when the pressure was on... shaq flopped more often than not in his career.

kobe had the better career without shaq than shaq had without kobe.

kobe was picked over shaq by LA

kobe won 1 more title than shaq

kobe saved the 2000 WCF and nba Finals for shaq

kobe averaged all time record stats for a non mvp in the 2001 playoffs



lets just agree that shaq needed kobe way more than kobe needed shaq. we get in this conversation every day

and it always ends with the same outcome.

shaq needed legends to win

kobe only needed pau ( a nobody as far as legendary status is concerned )

pau gasol is good. but hes one of the all time WORST rated 2nd options in title history

87th all time on bbreference

[Hey Yo]

- It was a series winning shot.

- It was a do or die game (series tied 2-2, basically a game 7 back then). If Jordan misses, they lose the series.

- It was a huge upset. The Cavs were the 2nd seed, won 57 games and were a legit contenders up to that point. Bulls were underdogs, only won 47 games and were the 7th seed.

- Bulls eventually went on to the ECF without HCA, almost beating the Pistons because of it.

- Bulls dynasty might not have happened if he would've missed.

- He hung in the air.

Cavs were the 3 seed, Chicago 6th.

[kennethgriffin]

Counting near game winners now?

kobe has like 50 or 60 legit game winners.

probably 500 go ahead eventual winners

atleast 25 buzzer beater winners

a lifetime of clutch shots



talk all the sh*t you want about the ones hes missed. doesnt take away the ones hes made

and atleast 5-10 of them are more impressive than jordans vs cleveland


dont get me wrong. jordans was nice. but "the shot" of all "shots"

lol no

[Dr Hawk]

Game winner and a series closing shot.

a) Those shitty Cavs won 10 games more than the Bulls, 57 for 47.
b) It was a Playoff series and thanks to that shot, Bulls advanced instead of the Cavs
c) Both teams had no chance for the title, so let's not try to do well and advance right? Nice competitive mindset
d)The Bad Boys were a clearly superior team, still managed to win 2 games.

[K Xerxes]

we're talking about making key shots. and kobe hit most of the key shots for shaq. not the other way around

when the pressure was on... shaq flopped more often than not in his career.

kobe had the better career without shaq than shaq had without kobe.

kobe was picked over shaq by LA

kobe won 1 more title than shaq

kobe saved the 2000 WCF and nba Finals for shaq

kobe averaged all time record stats for a non mvp in the 2001 playoffs



lets just agree that shaq needed kobe way more than kobe needed shaq. we get in this conversation every day

and it always ends with the same outcome.

shaq needed legends to win

kobe only needed pau ( a nobody as far as legendary status is concerned )

pau gasol is good. but hes one of the all time WORST rated 2nd options in title history

87th all time on bbreference

2000 finals:
Shaq - 38/17/3 on 61%
Kobe - 16/5/4 on 37%

2001 finals:
Shaq - 33/16/5 on 57%
Kobe - 25/8/6 on 42%

2002 finals:
Shaq - 36/12/4 on 60%
Kobe - 27/6/5 on 51%%

You're the one that bought up finals, not me.

[Hey Yo]

we're talking about making key shots. and kobe hit most of the key shots for shaq. not the other way around

when the pressure was on... shaq flopped more often than not in his career.

kobe had the better career without shaq than shaq had without kobe.

kobe was picked over shaq by LA

kobe won 1 more title than shaq

kobe saved the 2000 WCF and nba Finals for shaq

kobe averaged all time record stats for a non mvp in the 2001 playoffs



lets just agree that shaq needed kobe way more than kobe needed shaq. we get in this conversation every day

and it always ends with the same outcome.

shaq needed legends to win

kobe only needed pau ( a nobody as far as legendary status is concerned )

pau gasol is good. but hes one of the all time WORST rated 2nd options in title history

87th all time on bbreference

Kobe without Shaq (say Rik Smits or Yao Ming) and Kobe doesn't even get to the Finals.

Kobe missed practically 2 games in the 2000 Finals yet he saved Shaq??

[Young X]

Cavs were the 3 seed, Chicago 6th.

My bad, Cleveland had the 2nd best record in the east though. They won 10 more games than the Bulls and were 6-0 against them in the regular season. Chicago should not have won that series.

[Optimus Prime]

OP making real Kobe fans look bad.

If LeBeta is 4/10 on the clutch scale, and Kobe is a 10/10, then MJ is probably like...Infinity/10.

That Cavs team back then was rather good, and Ehlo was no bum. He was a skilled player and a great defender.

MJ > Kobe and always will be unless Kobe wins like 2 more rings, which is not gonna happen. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[Hey Yo]

My bad, Cleveland had the 2nd best record in the east though. They won 10 more games than the Bulls and were 6-0 against them in the regular season. Chicago should not have won that series.

Definitely weren't the favorites.

[Rose'sACL]

My bad, Cleveland had the 2nd best record in the east though. They won 10 more games than the Bulls and were 6-0 against them in the regular season. Chicago should not have won that series.

Chicago weren't the favorites but it wasn't that huge of an upset.