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Old 10-24-2010, 01:28 PM   #16
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Default Re: Cain Velasquez = Will be GOAT HW

lol at fedor being afraid of the best competition. are carwin and mir top competition? the ufc hw class is more of a joke then anywhere fedor fought. fedor has beaten plenty of ufc champs. give me fedor any day of the week.
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:06 PM   #17
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Let Lesnar fight, bigfoot, barnett, overeem, arlovski, fedor, werdum, sergei, etc before we tout him as the "baddest man on earth" please. UFC HW champ doesn't mean as much as their other divisions cause their HW division is thin. It's literally comprised of Mir, Lesnar, Cain, and Dos santos with some fillers thrown in.

please I know Brock is overrated as hell but he's def. top 10 material, Barnett is basically a pudgy Lesnar with overrated striking, Sergei is a good boxer but will he stuff Lesnars takedown's he's also been quite inactive and grown fat, although he did win his last fight.

I think the new HW rankings should be


1.Fedor
2.Werdum he either 2 if you count his win over Fedor
3.Cain
4. Lesnar
5. JDS
6. Overeem

Fedor could also be around 4th spot if you count overeem being Strikeforce champ, but for me so far back to backs agains Buentello and Rogers does not make you higher.
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Old 10-24-2010, 02:39 PM   #18
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lol at fedor being afraid of the best competition. are carwin and mir top competition? the ufc hw class is more of a joke then anywhere fedor fought. fedor has beaten plenty of ufc champs. give me fedor any day of the week.

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Old 10-24-2010, 03:11 PM   #19
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Brock Lesnar = GOAT Dancer
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:33 PM   #20
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Brock Lesnar = GOAT Dancer

when i saw him fall last night i knew it would make a great gif
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Old 10-24-2010, 03:48 PM   #21
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Beating Lesnar who looked like an unstoppable monster was certainly impressive.


Ya Brock looked real unstoppable in his last two fights.



Anyone who knows MMA knew Brock was one-dimensional, and would lose to anyone he couldn't hold down.
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Old 10-24-2010, 05:35 PM   #22
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Ya Brock looked real unstoppable in his last two fights.



Anyone who knows MMA knew Brock was one-dimensional, and would lose to anyone he couldn't hold down.
LOL, pardon me for thinking that the UFC Champ was a great fighter. Actually, pardon me twice, because I still think he's a great fighter.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:19 PM   #23
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LOL, pardon me for thinking that the UFC Champ was a great fighter. Actually, pardon me twice, because I still think he's a great fighter.
I that you still like lesnar., but i that you think hes great.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:38 PM   #24
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I that you still like lesnar., but i that you think hes great.
My standard for greatness is met by anyone that wins a Championship. I guess that's not good enough for the rest of you, but to me it means something.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:38 PM   #25
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I don't know the order, but the top 5 HWs are:

Fedor
Werdum
Overeem
Velasquez
JDS

Only 2 in the UFC
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:44 PM   #26
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Didn't Fedor recently lose too? Not that he isn't great, I'm just pointing out that it seems Lesnar's L is being held more strongly against him than Fedor's.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:46 PM   #27
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Too many fedor dick riders
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:23 PM   #28
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Didn't Fedor recently lose too? Not that he isn't great, I'm just pointing out that it seems Lesnar's L is being held more strongly against him than Fedor's.

Because Lesnar is 1-dimensional, and that was Fedor's first loss in a decade. That was basically the first loss of his career. You could tell that he was about to end the fight, but he got careless and just got caught by a BJJ expert.
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:14 PM   #29
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Tell that to Fedor
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:28 PM   #30
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Fedor is the greatest heavyweight ever, no ifs, ands, or buts. It's funny because a week ago this is a statement that was ridiculed by the UFC idiots who'll make any excuse to why Brock is the greatest heavyweight. They eat their words now and it took Cain (thank God) to bring this to reality.

As for Cain being the greatest, he has the skillset. He's the prototype of what the best fighter should look like in MMA. Powerful stand-up, strong wrestling, athleticism, and great stamina. Much like what Bader and Jon Jones are. But to do what Fedor did and transcend over a long period of time where fighters had the ability to evolve, that's tough to do.
Fighters evolve, within two years there will be a fighter who's skillset matches and will dominate.

Think about this, Carwin, Cain, JSD were practically non-existant 2 years ago. In two years you don't think there will be a breed like this coming in?
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