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Old 10-25-2010, 12:52 PM   #106
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Yea I don't know why he attacked you like that. Models can be made from data. Global warming is a reality but I feel like it's being overblown by environmentalists.
did you read his post? He said it was just a model and not data.

and it is data, primary data. and there is no denying the impact our combustion of carbon sinks has had on atmospheric composition. By comparing that with the incredible wealth of p-env data, we can see that high levels of CO2 are always equated with higher average temperatures and altered climate patterns. So, since we know (and there is no disputing this) that we have altered the atmospheric composition and we can compare that with p-env records with similar atmospheric composition.......
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:55 PM   #107
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did you read his post? He said it was just a model and not data.

and it is data, primary data. and there is no denying the impact our combustion of carbon sinks has had on atmospheric composition. By comparing that with the incredible wealth of p-env data, we can see that high levels of CO2 are always equated with higher average temperatures and altered climate patterns. So, since we know (and there is no disputing this) that we have altered the atmospheric composition and we can compare that with p-env records with similar atmospheric composition.......
Do you guys know how long it will be before we start seeing serious effects? Because I don't see these emissions stopping anytime soon.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:09 PM   #108
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We're already seeing pollinators get displaced from flowering cycles and stuff like pests and pathogens overwhelming host species because they're not getting a proper winter to back them off.

Not too mention stuff like melting ice caps, stronger and more frequent storms, etc.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:51 PM   #109
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Do you guys know how long it will be before we start seeing serious effects? Because I don't see these emissions stopping anytime soon.
According to Al Gore Los Angeles will be under water in 7 years if we don't change now
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:12 PM   #110
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so, proxy p-env data are not the "real" thing? Also, I love how you anthropomorphize earth there (decided to change its cycle?). Seriously, your input embarrasses me for TAMU.

Not because you as a petrol engineer have to deny its negative impacts, but because you cant be bothered to read up on the readily available p-env data. We have a great understanding of the climatological cycles of the earth (Milankovitch cycles for one) and we have incredibly precise data on changes in CO2 and temp (and O stable isotopes and other lines of evidence) across the entire fossil history of anatomically modern humans.

Whether I deny or affirm the impacts of global warming, I still make money, I still enjoy what I do and fossil fuels will remain main source of energy in 2050 and well after that.

I have nothing to lose by affirming the impacts of fossil fuels.

Tell me where I'm wrong about the whole cycle bit. Sure I don't go in as much depth as someone like you or douche would know but that's just the general bit of it.

And I think I can be afford 1 misinformed/under researched post compared the the many others that you, douche and the rest of the board makes in regards to energy, oil, natural gas and the BP oil spill. Thanks.
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