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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by LJJ
    Because those teams have more than one rebounding player on the roster, and don't have rebounding hustle players like Humphries playing 35 minutes a game.


    Give a terribly average player like Drew Gooden 35 minutes a game on the Nets playing next to Shelden Williams and he would average a double double. You are kidding yourself if you disagree.
    Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.
    lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound
    lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).
    Idk how your surroundings determines stats. LeBron averaged 30 points in Cleveland and is averaging 28 in Miami. According to your theory he should average much lower in Miami because he is playing alongside two other 20 ppg scorers. Yet his statistics are nearly identical for both teams despite completely different situations. Hump has been steadily improving year in and year out and his work cannot be undervalued because of a weak front court. Your logic is terrible.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by It's A VC3!!!
    Idk how your surroundings determines stats. LeBron averaged 30 points in Cleveland and is averaging 28 in Miami. According to your theory he should average much lower in Miami because he is playing alongside two other 20 ppg scorers. Yet his statistics are nearly identical for both teams despite completely different situations. Hump has been steadily improving year in and year out and his work cannot be undervalued because of a weak front court. Your logic is terrible.
    hes a top 5 rebounder in the league, yet his team had the 4th? worst rb rate. what does that tell you? that the rest of the squad are below par rebounders. and, most likely, he gets extra garbage rbs (like ben wallace used to) just by being the only one in position.

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    And by saying hump has nobody beside him to grab rebounds is a compliment to him. He has to go up against other frontcourts all by himself and grab rebounds over them all by himself. He doesn't have somebody to ask for help.
    Again your logic is terrible.

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    Default Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    what a butthurt toolbox you are.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.

    Garnett
    Chandler
    Brand
    Noah
    Boozer
    Hibbert
    West
    Bogut
    Ersan
    Monroe
    Maxiell
    Varejao
    Jamison
    Bosh
    Horford
    Smith
    Howard
    McGee
    Nene
    Ibaka
    Perkins
    Faried
    Jefferson
    Favors
    Millsap
    Aldridge
    Camby
    Hickson
    Love
    Pekovic
    Gasol
    Bynum
    Griffin
    Jordan
    Martin
    Gortat
    Lee
    Kwame
    Cousins
    Thompson
    Duncan
    Blair
    Other Gasol
    Zach
    Dirky
    Scola
    Dalembert
    Okafor
    Landry
    Kaman

    And those are just the most obvious suspects. I don't feel like counting, but even the most marginal talents on that list could still average a double double on those Nets.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound
    lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).
    Ben Wallace will be regarded as one of the best rebounders of all time but the Pistons (pre-Rasheed Wallace days) were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. Are we going to discredit him as a rebounder too because of it?

    And how much inflating are we really talking about? To use the Ben Wallace example, after Rasheed joined the team, his averages dropped like 2 or 3 rebounds. Which would make Kris a 9-10 rpg player. Not really that bad if you ask me.

    His point production most definitely will go down, but his rebounding should be fine. If I take issue with anything Kris does, it's what he does on offense. He tries too much to do what he's not. But as far as rebounding goes, he's a pretty good one, and as good as anyone not named Kevin Love or Dwight Howard.

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    Default Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound
    what a butthurt toolbox you are.
    Toolbox? I have a hammer stored inside and I just nailed you down.

    No seriously though, it's extremely commendable when your frontcourt is composed of only one player( hump) and he has to go against the OKC's of the world, spurs, Knicks and so many more and is asked to defend the entire front court on his own and grab rebounds over them on his own. It would be easier if he said "**** it I'll let petro do the work " it's going to be so much easier with Lopez back next year on hump.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by LJJ
    Because those teams have more than one rebounding player on the roster, and don't have rebounding hustle players like Humphries playing 35 minutes a game.


    Give a terribly average player like Drew Gooden 35 minutes a game on the Nets playing next to Shelden Williams and he would average a double double. You are kidding yourself if you disagree.
    You're wrong. Kris Humphries is a very high energy player.. guys like Drew Gooden wouldnt be able to keep their energy levels high enough to do all of the banging and running around that Kris does. It's very noticeable on the court that he is playing with more intensity at times than anybody else.

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    Default Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Kris Humphries will average 9+ boards next year. His numbers will drop a little because of Lopez and Evans getting big minutes but there's nothing thats going to stop him from doing what he does especially when the starting center has zero aggressivenes when going for bounds.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by LJJ
    Garnett
    Chandler
    Brand
    Noah
    Boozer
    Hibbert
    West
    Bogut
    Ersan
    Monroe
    Maxiell
    Varejao
    Jamison
    Bosh
    Horford
    Smith
    Howard
    McGee
    Nene
    Ibaka
    Perkins
    Faried
    Jefferson
    Favors
    Millsap
    Aldridge
    Camby
    Hickson
    Love
    Pekovic
    Gasol
    Bynum
    Griffin
    Jordan
    Martin
    Gortat
    Lee
    Kwame
    Cousins
    Thompson
    Duncan
    Blair
    Other Gasol
    Zach
    Dirky
    Scola
    Dalembert
    Okafor
    Landry
    Kaman

    And those are just the most obvious suspects. I don't feel like counting, but even the most marginal talents on that list could still a double double on the Nets.

    This is one of the laziest lists I've ever seen put together. Let me list you the top 10 worst rebounding teams:

    Celtics
    Bobcats
    Warriors
    Nets
    Pistons
    Blazers
    Hornets
    Hawks
    Clippers
    Heat

    Right off the bat, your first guy, Garnett, is on the worst rebounding team and yet didn't average the rebounds. Then you see guys like Okafor, Aldridge, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan who were on bad rebounding teams and couldn't muster up double digit rebounds.

    And then you have guys that were on bad teams in the past and have never averaged double digit rebounds: Hickson, Kwame, Hibbert, Thompson, Favors, Scola, Nene.

    In some of these cases, they've never even averaged 8.

    This is the worst list known to man.

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    Default Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    What the hell was the point of the lockout? Seems like it's the summer of average players getting grossly overpaid. More power to them, if GMs are stupid enough to overpay, no one will say no to that type of money.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    This is one of the laziest lists I've ever seen put together. Let me list you the top 10 worst rebounding teams:

    Celtics
    Bobcats
    Warriors
    Nets
    Pistons
    Blazers
    Hornets
    Hawks
    Clippers
    Heat

    Right off the bat, your first guy, Garnett, is on the worst rebounding team and yet didn't average the rebounds. Then you see guys like Okafor, Aldridge, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan who were on bad rebounding teams and couldn't muster up double digit rebounds.

    And then you have guys that were on bad teams in the past and have never averaged double digit rebounds: Hickson, Kwame, Hibbert, Thompson, Favors, Scola, Nene.

    In some of these cases, they've never even averaged 8.

    This is the worst list known to man.
    They could all easily average 10 rebounds in 35 minutes on those Nets playing next to Shelden Williams.

    Especially when doing barely anything else. They were simply never put in a situation like that. But everyone can see you are just a blind homer.

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    Default Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million

    Quote Originally Posted by wang4three
    This is the worst list known to man.
    The guy is a moron. We saw McGee on one of the worst frontcourts and teams in the league with all of the opportunity in the world for him to showcase his talent and he sucked. Most of the guys on that list dont have near the nose for the ball or aggressiveness Humphries has. They're just a list of random tall players in the league.

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