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NJ Net Fan For Life.
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LJJ
Because those teams have more than one rebounding player on the roster, and don't have rebounding hustle players like Humphries playing 35 minutes a game.
Give a terribly average player like Drew Gooden 35 minutes a game on the Nets playing next to Shelden Williams and he would average a double double. You are kidding yourself if you disagree.
Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.
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An uglier Lamar Doom
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.
lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by boozehound
lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).
Idk how your surroundings determines stats. LeBron averaged 30 points in Cleveland and is averaging 28 in Miami. According to your theory he should average much lower in Miami because he is playing alongside two other 20 ppg scorers. Yet his statistics are nearly identical for both teams despite completely different situations. Hump has been steadily improving year in and year out and his work cannot be undervalued because of a weak front court. Your logic is terrible.
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An uglier Lamar Doom
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by It's A VC3!!!
Idk how your surroundings determines stats. LeBron averaged 30 points in Cleveland and is averaging 28 in Miami. According to your theory he should average much lower in Miami because he is playing alongside two other 20 ppg scorers. Yet his statistics are nearly identical for both teams despite completely different situations. Hump has been steadily improving year in and year out and his work cannot be undervalued because of a weak front court. Your logic is terrible.
hes a top 5 rebounder in the league, yet his team had the 4th? worst rb rate. what does that tell you? that the rest of the squad are below par rebounders. and, most likely, he gets extra garbage rbs (like ben wallace used to) just by being the only one in position.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
And by saying hump has nobody beside him to grab rebounds is a compliment to him. He has to go up against other frontcourts all by himself and grab rebounds over them all by himself. He doesn't have somebody to ask for help.
Again your logic is terrible.
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An uglier Lamar Doom
Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
what a butthurt toolbox you are.
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Extra Cheese
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
Name 29-39 people outside of Drew Gooden that can do this. You're kidding yourself if think there that many. You're also terrible incorrect if you think teams like Charlotte or Toronto have multiple rebounding forces. And by your logic, you're basically lumping David Lee and Greg Monroe into the same category since their competition for rebounds is pretty slim.
Garnett
Chandler
Brand
Noah
Boozer
Hibbert
West
Bogut
Ersan
Monroe
Maxiell
Varejao
Jamison
Bosh
Horford
Smith
Howard
McGee
Nene
Ibaka
Perkins
Faried
Jefferson
Favors
Millsap
Aldridge
Camby
Hickson
Love
Pekovic
Gasol
Bynum
Griffin
Jordan
Martin
Gortat
Lee
Kwame
Cousins
Thompson
Duncan
Blair
Other Gasol
Zach
Dirky
Scola
Dalembert
Okafor
Landry
Kaman
And those are just the most obvious suspects. I don't feel like counting, but even the most marginal talents on that list could still average a double double on those Nets.
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NJ Net Fan For Life.
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by boozehound
lets be real here. they (along with GS and detroit and I think charlotte) were by far the worst rebounding teams last season. None of those dudes had much help (and have somewhat inflated rb # because of it).
Ben Wallace will be regarded as one of the best rebounders of all time but the Pistons (pre-Rasheed Wallace days) were one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. Are we going to discredit him as a rebounder too because of it?
And how much inflating are we really talking about? To use the Ben Wallace example, after Rasheed joined the team, his averages dropped like 2 or 3 rebounds. Which would make Kris a 9-10 rpg player. Not really that bad if you ask me.
His point production most definitely will go down, but his rebounding should be fine. If I take issue with anything Kris does, it's what he does on offense. He tries too much to do what he's not. But as far as rebounding goes, he's a pretty good one, and as good as anyone not named Kevin Love or Dwight Howard.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by boozehound
what a butthurt toolbox you are.
Toolbox? I have a hammer stored inside and I just nailed you down.
No seriously though, it's extremely commendable when your frontcourt is composed of only one player( hump) and he has to go against the OKC's of the world, spurs, Knicks and so many more and is asked to defend the entire front court on his own and grab rebounds over them on his own. It would be easier if he said "**** it I'll let petro do the work " it's going to be so much easier with Lopez back next year on hump.
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07-17-2012, 05:26 PM
#100
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LJJ
Because those teams have more than one rebounding player on the roster, and don't have rebounding hustle players like Humphries playing 35 minutes a game.
Give a terribly average player like Drew Gooden 35 minutes a game on the Nets playing next to Shelden Williams and he would average a double double. You are kidding yourself if you disagree.
You're wrong. Kris Humphries is a very high energy player.. guys like Drew Gooden wouldnt be able to keep their energy levels high enough to do all of the banging and running around that Kris does. It's very noticeable on the court that he is playing with more intensity at times than anybody else.
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07-17-2012, 05:30 PM
#101
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Kris Humphries will average 9+ boards next year. His numbers will drop a little because of Lopez and Evans getting big minutes but there's nothing thats going to stop him from doing what he does especially when the starting center has zero aggressivenes when going for bounds.
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07-17-2012, 05:31 PM
#102
NJ Net Fan For Life.
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LJJ
Garnett
Chandler
Brand
Noah
Boozer
Hibbert
West
Bogut
Ersan
Monroe
Maxiell
Varejao
Jamison
Bosh
Horford
Smith
Howard
McGee
Nene
Ibaka
Perkins
Faried
Jefferson
Favors
Millsap
Aldridge
Camby
Hickson
Love
Pekovic
Gasol
Bynum
Griffin
Jordan
Martin
Gortat
Lee
Kwame
Cousins
Thompson
Duncan
Blair
Other Gasol
Zach
Dirky
Scola
Dalembert
Okafor
Landry
Kaman
And those are just the most obvious suspects. I don't feel like counting, but even the most marginal talents on that list could still a double double on the Nets.
This is one of the laziest lists I've ever seen put together. Let me list you the top 10 worst rebounding teams:
Celtics
Bobcats
Warriors
Nets
Pistons
Blazers
Hornets
Hawks
Clippers
Heat
Right off the bat, your first guy, Garnett, is on the worst rebounding team and yet didn't average the rebounds. Then you see guys like Okafor, Aldridge, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan who were on bad rebounding teams and couldn't muster up double digit rebounds.
And then you have guys that were on bad teams in the past and have never averaged double digit rebounds: Hickson, Kwame, Hibbert, Thompson, Favors, Scola, Nene.
In some of these cases, they've never even averaged 8.
This is the worst list known to man.
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07-17-2012, 05:33 PM
#103
Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
What the hell was the point of the lockout? Seems like it's the summer of average players getting grossly overpaid. More power to them, if GMs are stupid enough to overpay, no one will say no to that type of money.
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07-17-2012, 05:33 PM
#104
Extra Cheese
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
This is one of the laziest lists I've ever seen put together. Let me list you the top 10 worst rebounding teams:
Celtics
Bobcats
Warriors
Nets
Pistons
Blazers
Hornets
Hawks
Clippers
Heat
Right off the bat, your first guy, Garnett, is on the worst rebounding team and yet didn't average the rebounds. Then you see guys like Okafor, Aldridge, Monroe, DeAndre Jordan who were on bad rebounding teams and couldn't muster up double digit rebounds.
And then you have guys that were on bad teams in the past and have never averaged double digit rebounds: Hickson, Kwame, Hibbert, Thompson, Favors, Scola, Nene.
In some of these cases, they've never even averaged 8.
This is the worst list known to man.
They could all easily average 10 rebounds in 35 minutes on those Nets playing next to Shelden Williams.
Especially when doing barely anything else. They were simply never put in a situation like that. But everyone can see you are just a blind homer.
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07-17-2012, 05:35 PM
#105
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
This is the worst list known to man.
The guy is a moron. We saw McGee on one of the worst frontcourts and teams in the league with all of the opportunity in the world for him to showcase his talent and he sucked. Most of the guys on that list dont have near the nose for the ball or aggressiveness Humphries has. They're just a list of random tall players in the league.
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