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10-14-2014, 05:43 PM
#151
2Willd & 2Fresh est.86
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
Too bad Ewing was off all 7.
Not really, but starks needed to hit those shots man. Ewing and Hakeem would each have 1 ring.
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10-14-2014, 08:32 PM
#152
Coach
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Ewing is better than every center the league has seen since Shaq declined in 2006.
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10-14-2014, 09:04 PM
#153
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
How certain are we? Pop made his calculations, Vogel made his, both took out elite rim defenders when perimeter defense became important. I don't know who you are but for now I'm going to assume:
Pop, Vogel >>>>>>>>>>>>> some guy that thinks Ewing's athleticism > Peak Duncan.
lol both those coaches got burnt on those decisions.. literally cost them playoff ball games. Great examples.
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10-14-2014, 09:48 PM
#154
Very good NBA starter
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Ewing is better than every center the league has seen since Shaq declined in 2006.
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10-14-2014, 10:38 PM
#155
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Didn't Patrick Ewing's Knicks knock Larry Bird's Celtics out of the play-offs? Jordan has never done that.
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10-14-2014, 10:55 PM
#156
ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by MiseryCityTexas
Didn't Patrick Ewing's Knicks knock Larry Bird's Celtics out of the play-offs? Jordan has never done that.
Dennis Johnson had retired.
Bird was a year away from retirement
McHale 2 years
Parish old as shit
Reggie Lewis was good.
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10-16-2014, 04:37 PM
#157
Local High School Star
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by Real14
Too bad John Starks was off those last two games
Starks had an excellent game 6. Game 7 he was awful.
Ewing shot poorly in 6 of the 7 games, including a dreadful game 3. Games 3 and 6 were as close as you could get and Ewing's offense was awful. Missing from all over and not getting to the line. Even after Starks went 2-18 in game 7, and also 3-18 in game 1, he still ended up with better offensive numbers than Ewing.
Ewing did do a very good job at blocking shots and rebounding though.
Originally Posted by Real14
Not really, but starks needed to hit those shots man. Ewing and Hakeem would each have 1 ring.
Ewing needed to hit his shots. He was the franchise player and laid a giant turd offensively.
Starks had a better series offensively than Ewing.
Last edited by Stringer Bell; 10-16-2014 at 04:40 PM.
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10-16-2014, 05:16 PM
#158
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by ProfessorMurder
Get the f*ck out of here you 8 year old. Nobody talks about him.
Prime Ewing would be the best player in the league right now... At worst, second best.
At worst a top 3 player with Lebron and Durant 1 and 2
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10-16-2014, 08:52 PM
#159
NBA lottery pick
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
I don't see how Big Pat is overrated! He's FOR SURE a top 10 GOAT center. And for sure one of the 50 greatest players of all time. But I think what hurts Pat is the fact that he really didn't revolutionize the center position like Mikan, Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, Robinson, or Shaq before him. I would say Moses and Pat probably redefined the center position the least out of the great centers. But Moses was more dominant than Pat in terms of numbers and overall career resume. So unless u are putting Pat in the top 6-7 centers ever, I don't think he's overrated. He's usually rated in the top 35 players of all time, which is fair.
At his best, u got a great scorer, great rebounder, and great defender at the center position. Which is AWESOME because GUESS HOW MANY CENTERS are like that today? NONE!!! The only centers that blended all three as well were Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, and David. Even with Shaq and Moses, I think Pat was a better defender.
Last edited by bizil; 10-16-2014 at 08:56 PM.
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08-17-2020, 07:38 AM
#160
2nd Greatest Player
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
He's getting underrated. If Ewing had a better sidekick than John Stacks his knicks would have beaten Jordan Bulls. Put Pippen with Ewing's Knicks and they would be winning championship.
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08-17-2020, 10:23 AM
#161
Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Probably rated. Top 35-40 all-time.
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08-17-2020, 11:25 AM
#162
Coach
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by Lebron23
He's getting underrated. If Ewing had a better sidekick than John Stacks his knicks would have beaten Jordan Bulls. Put Pippen with Ewing's Knicks and they would be winning championship.
Not if Mike has an adequate sidekick.
Give him Stacey Augmon, and Mookie Blaylock and it’s GAME OVER for NYC again.
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08-17-2020, 08:00 PM
#163
I usually hit open layups
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
He’s an old school center so it’s a given he’s overrated. Embid would feast on old school centers.
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08-17-2020, 08:19 PM
#164
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
I'm not sure his defense would be nearly as valuable today as it was back then, but you have to judge the players in which era they played in.
He was a monster on defense in those days. He was for the most part a reliable #1 scorer in the playoffs. That's a pretty great combination right there.
I'd take him over David Robinson, for example
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08-17-2020, 08:26 PM
#165
Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Patrick Ewing - most overrated player of all time?
Originally Posted by Carbine
I'm not sure his defense would be nearly as valuable today as it was back then, but you have to judge the players in which era they played in.
He was a monster on defense in those days. He was for the most part a reliable #1 scorer in the playoffs. That's a pretty great combination right there.
I'd take him over David Robinson, for example
52.8% TS as a center from 88'-97' is reliable playoff scoring? His playoff scoring was 22.5 PPG during that time frame. He was 51.5% TS for 22.4 PPG during his best window for chips, 1992-1995. This is horrific for a center.
Ewing was very inefficient compared to his star center peers in the playoffs (Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, Mourning, Daughtery).
Last edited by Roundball_Rock; 08-17-2020 at 08:29 PM.
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