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05-03-2011, 12:27 PM
#241
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
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05-03-2011, 12:30 PM
#242
phal5
Re: I hate to say it but Rose is the worst MVP winner of all time
Worst is a bit of a stretch, IMO. He's one of the least dominant winners of the last 25 years or so, though.
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05-03-2011, 12:37 PM
#243
Scott Hastings Fan
Re: I hate to say it but Rose is the worst MVP winner of all time
It's not the worst MVP season of all-time.
And when all is said and done I think Rose will eclipse Nash and McAdoo as a better all-time player.
To me Steve Nash remains easily the worst player (peak wise) to ever win the MVP. His team never had a chance of winning the title with him as their best player. That's the only MVP I can say that about with conviction.
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05-03-2011, 12:37 PM
#244
Bulls 4 Life
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Tight race this year but Rose is absolutely deserving. Chi-town represent!
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05-03-2011, 12:37 PM
#245
I rule the local playground
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Congrats to D-Rose
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05-03-2011, 12:53 PM
#246
I rule the local playground
Re: I hate to say it but Rose is the worst MVP winner of all time
Originally Posted by Timofey Mozgov
Definitely undeserving. Thibs' system made them a 60-win team.
If your best player doesn't buy-in and execute. The system means very little. Thibs and Rose, both are deserving of their honors. Period...
[COLOR="Red"]GO sell some medicine b*tches...lol[/COLOR]
(That's for my Chappelle show fans out there)
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05-03-2011, 12:55 PM
#247
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Derrick "y cant i b mvp" Rose
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05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
#248
Life goes on.
Re: I hate to say it but Rose is the worst MVP winner of all time
Rose wouldn't have won the MVP is he wasn't on the team with the best record. Maybe if SAS got it, he still would have... but he's a superstar and he's on a 60 win team. That didn't happen much this year. Even the HEAT didn't win 60.
The NBA has a lot of parity this year and you can't tell me Rose didn't deserve the MVP. There's no one else that was better and I watched Rose win some big games for them.
NOw that they lost game one people are gonna come out and say shit like Rose was overrated... typical.
-Smak
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05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
#249
College superstar
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
"sources with knowledge about the situation" = have watched the NBA this season.
Just a weak year for MVP candidates.
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05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
#250
Local High School Star
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
The media darling who is completely undeserved wins again.
Networks like ESPN have destroyed the MVP. When moron analysts, half of them who support markets like Chicago, jump on a player like Rose it becomes the norm. Just pathetic, people will look back years from now and say "WTF?"
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05-03-2011, 12:59 PM
#251
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
21 game improvement coinciding with Derrick Rose improving in like literally every department (scoring, leadership, defense, play making, etc). well deserved IMO. When defending other PG's in 'isolation plays', basically one-on-one, he allowed just 0.61 Points Per Possession which is pretty good, and he has become a pretty clutch player this season on offense. Give him the MVP.
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05-03-2011, 01:02 PM
#252
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Originally Posted by Mr Know It All
The media darling who is completely undeserved wins again.
Networks like ESPN have destroyed the MVP. When moron analysts, half of them who support markets like Chicago, jump on a player like Rose it becomes the norm. Just pathetic, people will look back years from now and say "WTF?"
What the hell? Who do you think deserved it more?
Lebron: No, worse record and had 2 all stars.
Wade - Same as Bron
Dirk- Stats and record too low
Kobe- usual supporting cast too good
Howard - record not good enough
The best player on the best team with no other all stars doesn't deserve MVP?
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05-03-2011, 01:07 PM
#253
College superstar
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Originally Posted by SCdac
21 game improvement coinciding with Derrick Rose improving in like literally every department (scoring, leadership, defense, play making, etc). well deserved IMO. When defending other PG's in 'isolation plays', basically one-on-one, he allowed just 0.61 Points Per Possession which is pretty good, and he has become a pretty clutch player this season on offense. Give him the MVP.
Sounds more like "most improved" there, but I'm not denying he was the only logical choice for MVP. The better players either have better teammates (which for some reason counts against them) or are on far inferior teams which decreases their stock (again also unfair, give Howard Thibs, Deng, Boozer, Bogans and Watson and he's MVP probably). Kobe was getting MVP calls in 06 and his team barely made the playoffs, but for some reason this has changed.
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05-03-2011, 01:10 PM
#254
College superstar
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Originally Posted by VishaltotheG
What the hell? Who do you think deserved it more?
Lebron: No, worse record and had 2 all stars.
Wade - Same as Bron
Dirk- Stats and record too low
Kobe- usual supporting cast too good
Howard - record not good enough
The best player on the best team with no other all stars doesn't deserve MVP?
I dunno, I think it's more an argument against the voting system. I don't understand why there isn't just a 'best player' award...
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05-03-2011, 01:19 PM
#255
Decent college freshman
Re: Derrick Rose is the 2010-2011 MVP!!
Congrats, logical choice.
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