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Old 06-15-2007, 02:20 PM   #16
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Default Re: Lakers don't want to trade Odom and Bynum for JO

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Old 06-15-2007, 03:41 PM   #17
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Default Re: Lakers don't want to trade Odom and Bynum for JO

Definitely agree Lakers > Kobe.

Now, I believe we can get a trade set up that involves something like this:

Indiana trades:
Jermaine O'Neal
Darrell Armstrong

Lakers trade:
Andrew Bynum
Kwame Brown
Vladimir Radmanovic
#19 pick


This gives Indiana their young talented center to rebuild around, expiring contract Kwame Brown, and European shooter that Bird loves. Plus another first round pick to start rebuilding with.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:33 PM   #18
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Definitely agree Lakers > Kobe.

Now, I believe we can get a trade set up that involves something like this:

Indiana trades:
Jermaine O'Neal
Darrell Armstrong

Lakers trade:
Andrew Bynum
Kwame Brown
Vladimir Radmanovic
#19 pick


This gives Indiana their young talented center to rebuild around, expiring contract Kwame Brown, and European shooter that Bird loves. Plus another first round pick to start rebuilding with.

Chicago could/would offer a better deal than that.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:55 PM   #19
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Chicago could/would offer a better deal than that.

I think the best deal that Chicago could offer Indiana would be:

To Indiana:
Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
P.J. Brown (S&T)*

To Chicago:
Jermaine O'Neal

*Signs a $8.75 mill, 1 year contract

This would be the best offer, but Indiana also wants to get rid of one of its bad contracts (Dunleavy, Tinsley, Murphy).
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I think the best deal that Chicago could offer Indiana would be:

To Indiana:
Ben Gordon
Tyrus Thomas
P.J. Brown (S&T)*

To Chicago:
Jermaine O'Neal

*Signs a $8.75 mill, 1 year contract

This would be the best offer, but Indiana also wants to get rid of one of its bad contracts (Dunleavy, Tinsley, Murphy).

JO & Dunleavy
for
Gordon, Noce (s&t), Wallace (big contract), #9

Chicago then uses MLE on Magloire

Indy would then have a well-balanced team and the #9.
Much better than you Laker offer of Bynum/Kwame/blah/#19
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:11 PM   #21
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JO & Dunleavy
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Gordon, Noce (s&t), Wallace (big contract), #9

Chicago then uses MLE on Magloire

Indy would then have a well-balanced team and the #9.
Much better than you Laker offer of Bynum/Kwame/blah/#19

Indiana doesn't want Wallace's big contract. They want to rebuild. A roster of:

Jamaal Tinsley/Darrell Armstrong
Ben Gordon/Marquis Daniels
Danny Granger/Andres Nocioni/Shawne Williams
Troy Murphy/Ike Diogu
Ben Wallace/Jeff Foster

That isn't a winner. And it doesn't leave them much to trade or rebuild around.

Bynum/Kwame/Radmanovic/#19 pick might not make them a winner, but it gives them a future center to rebuild around and another draft pick. Also Kwame's contract comes off next year for cap room. Lastly, Bird likes to have European shooters like radmanovic
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:48 PM   #22
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Default Re: Lakers don't want to trade Odom and Bynum for JO

chi said thet dont want 2 disrupt their nucleus even if it means kg (they might b bs'n on that 1) but I think the only thing the're dangling is noce, duhon, pick - which they hope will land somebody good.
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:50 PM   #23
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Bynum/Kwame/Radmanovic/#19 pick might not make them a winner, but it gives them a future center to rebuild around and another draft pick. Also Kwame's contract comes off next year for cap room. Lastly, Bird likes to have European shooters like radmanovic

i doubt indy even takes us seriously if we dont include odom....bynum's not that great
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OMG!!! Troy Murphy with JO??? No way. No way. That is WAYYY too much salary. His contract is not tradeable.
Kobe
JO
Troy
That is not a championship team and we would not be able to change it.


You are SO on the money!!!!
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:31 AM   #25
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Default Re: Lakers don't want to trade Odom and Bynum for JO

I think its important to make the deal anyway. Fact of the matter is that because of Kobe's trade demands and requests for a better team, the Lakers have little to no leverage in trade negogiations. Therefore, the deal currently on the table will probably not change. However, if the Lakers are in dire need of a player who can work in the post and defend the inside. This is why getting Artest is pivotal too. Defense is where this team must improve.
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OMG!!! Troy Murphy with JO??? No way. No way. That is WAYYY too much salary. His contract is not tradeable.
Kobe
JO
Troy
That is not a championship team and we would not be able to change it.

That would put the Lakers in the luxury tax for years to come.... no way they do that deal.



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Old 06-16-2007, 12:08 PM   #27
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im a LAKER fan above anything else.....if they keep kobe and get o'neal, great.....but right now its evident that kobe no longer wants to be here....so why not get value for him....

and just for the record....a lineup of....

wallace/bynum
odom/turiaf
deng/walton
gordon/evans
farmar/MLE

...is not exactly a lottery pick team...thats a damn good line-up

--plus a possible #9 pick...
--plus we keep the #19 pick...

--thats a better team than last year for sure...

I think that's a great lineup, and one that will only get better as they develop together. Except Big Ben, but he'll give us a presence to allow us to compete until Bynum is ready.
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:00 PM   #28
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You are SO on the money!!!!

true that is a crap load of money......but i have an interesting suggestion......what if we took murphy and tinsley.....then we'd be able to keep bynum for sure....something like this.....

odom
brown
radman
vujacic
(mabye the #19)

for

oneal
murphy
tinsley


*me personally id rather just trade kobe than get oneal.....but gettig oneal is our only choice it would be awsome if we could keep bynum and i wouldnt mind taking on murphy and tinsley if it meant we get to keep bynum...
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true that is a crap load of money......but i have an interesting suggestion......what if we took murphy and tinsley.....then we'd be able to keep bynum for sure....something like this.....

odom
brown
radman
vujacic
(mabye the #19)

for

oneal
murphy
tinsley


*me personally id rather just trade kobe than get oneal.....but gettig oneal is our only choice it would be awsome if we could keep bynum and i wouldnt mind taking on murphy and tinsley if it meant we get to keep bynum...

Sorry, but this is the worst trade I have heard. We would be taking on WAY too much money and for far too long. Murphy and Tinsley both are extremely overpaid with 5 years remaining.
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