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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by Warfan
LeBron is a better play now but was more fun to watch back then. Imagine current LeBron and his skillset with cavs lebrons athleticism. He would just completely destroy and dominate teams even more.
this is a myth bro
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by red1
this is a myth bro
I disagree, I just think right now he is the most polished offensively he has ever been, can still play great D and is a better decision maker on the court. He has expanded his game and is a threat in the post, off the ball and ofcourse in the paint. I just think he's a more mature and experienced player then before.
Lebron the last 3 years is better than any cavs LeBron imo (id say his best is probably 2012, since that was his best playoff run)
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by Warfan
I disagree, I just think right now he is the most polished offensively he has ever been, can still play great D and is a better decision maker on the court. He has expanded his game and is a threat in the post, off the ball and ofcourse in the paint. I just think he's a more mature and experienced player then before.
Lebron the last 3 years is better than any cavs LeBron imo (id say his best is probably 2012, since that was his best playoff run)
This ^^.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
trust me it's a myth. anything he may have gained is offset by the slight loss of explosiveness. all that weight gain slows down acceleration
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
He's definitely better. I don't even think he's lost his spring, he's just tired.
Think about it, he's been playing the most minutes on the team on 3 straight trips to the finals, every team plays them like a G7 in the reg. season, and he cops a lot of contact when he drives.
His post game is much better now, his 3 is getting better, and his fades - however ugly they may be - are pretty wet ATM.
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by hahaitme
He's definitely better. I don't even think he's lost his spring, he's just tired.
Think about it, he's been playing the most minutes on the team on 3 straight trips to the finals, every team plays them like a G7 in the reg. season, and he cops a lot of contact when he drives.
His post game is much better now, his 3 is getting better, and his fades - however ugly they may be - are pretty wet ATM.
He's not better from where he was in 2009 and 2010. That was the peak. He has been able to maintain it and his game is definitely different in many ways now but even still it would be false to say that he flat out improved.
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
LeBron is way better now.
a bit less explosive but just as athletic, even stronger and better in everything els
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by Marlo_Stanfield
LeBron is way better now.
a bit less explosive but just as athletic, even stronger and better in everything els
you have no clue. he is the basically the same level
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
I dont think he's changed much from 2009.. well he's changed game style wise, but in effectiveness/results? Even 2011 could have been like the great years before or after, but it was a matter of having trouble adapting to the new situation, and the chokejob killed it.
Id probably rank LeBron like this:
2012
2009
2010
2014
2013
2011
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Lebron is clearly better now.
2011 was a defining year for him. He matured a lot from that finals series.
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... on a leash
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
Lebron is clearly better now.
2011 was a defining year for him. He matured a lot from that finals series.
2009&2010 LeBron was insane Id easily take 2009 > 2013 LeBron.. 2010 prolly too.
Now we could say "Well give 2013 LeBron a weak team and he'd dominate even more than the previous versions", but im just not sure about that..
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
2009&2010 LeBron was insane Id easily take 2009 > 2013 LeBron.. 2010 prolly too.
Now we could say "Well give 2013 LeBron a weak team and he'd dominate even more than the previous versions", but im just not sure about that..
stats are one thing, but lebron wasn't mentally ready to take his team to the promised land back then.
I'd rather have mature refined lebron than crazy-stats lebron.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
I dont think he's changed much from 2009.. well he's changed game style wise, but in effectiveness/results? Even 2011 could have been like the great years before or after, but it was a matter of having trouble adapting to the new situation, and the chokejob killed it.
Id probably rank LeBron like this:
2012
2009
2010
2014
2013
2011
pretty accurate IMO
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Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
LeBron hasnt hit his peak yet.
he will hit his peak the next 2 years after he recovers this summer not playing much ball and only working on jumper, hook shot and post moves.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: Cavaliers vs. Bulls Game 4: LeBron James highlights - 37 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assi
Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
stats are one thing, but lebron wasn't mentally ready to take his team to the promised land back then.
I'd rather have mature refined lebron than crazy-stats lebron.
if he had a better team he wouldve won in 2009 and 2010 as well
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