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Old 03-15-2011, 05:55 PM   #61
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"yesssssss, yesssss young Skywalker. Tell them all your tale of heaven. Tell them all it's real. Give IN to the Dark siiiiiiiiiiiide. You cannot resist me."

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Old 03-15-2011, 06:08 PM   #62
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Sad thing is that none of them believe nders stories, not even ONE!

They always think they're right and NDERS are wrong?...WTF?
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:09 PM   #63
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hey prime, have you ever heard of a medical study that was done...a doctor took hundreds of volunteers, and i dont know how to say this, but made them clinically dead to study nde's

what he did was put an LED sign in the room that was controlled by the doctors, he would "kill" the patients and then put a message on the scrolling sign, if the patient had the famous "out of body experience", they would've seen the message

but not a single person out of hundreds could ever convey the message that was displayed

i wish i can remember where and when i heard this, it was a radio show
During cardiac arrest there is NO brain activity at all...you are flat lined dead...that is the only way to get true clinical death...

If a doctor had reproduced that he did it illegally...
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:22 PM   #64
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The mind is a miracle in its self.

Lets just assume at 3 when this health issue was there and he never went to church and his parents never instituted the word of god , could this young boys thoughts really be that vivid ??

Now after 8 years he writes a book about it ....

Miracle's of 500,000 books created at $39.99

(That's the way to come back to life)

Now just imagine his parents preaching the word of god to a 3 year old !!
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:35 PM   #65
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the vast majority of doctors do not brush off NDEs...it might be as high as 99% don't discredit them...they are unexplainable...only theories can explain them, and most of those theories can only go so far, they can't explain the OBE phenom...

yet the f*ckin brain surgeons we have here at ISH know better...

Provide proof of this statement and I will bow down to your god. Give me a link to a pie chart, a pareto chart, an article, a video, a Gallup poll, etc., with info about "99% of doctors" not brushing off near death experiences.
One thing that I noticed most of you failed to acknowledge is the fact that the kid's DAD is a PASTOR!
Umm...
Unless I'm mistaken, this must mean the child is overly religious as well, am I right?
With that fact in your f0cking brain now, do you not think the child would naturally hallucinate about being in heaven? I bet if you were to ask him who else he saw in heaven, every figure he'd describe to you would be a Caucasian person. I'm assuming that must mean all Whites go to heaven, right? Apparently, Jesus Christ was White, even though he was born in the Middle East. . .
This isn't a post made to bash Caucasians. No, on the contraire, it's to say that I doubt this child's near death experience equated to an out-of-body experience in which he encountered some holy creator, who apparently is sooooooooooooooooooo big that he could hold the Earth in his hand.

I know people WANT to believe that there is life after death, that we don't die and just rot in the ground, that our lives do have meaning... Hell, I don't blame anyone for thinking that. I wish heaven did exist, but I doubt it. I really do.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #66
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Provide proof of this statement and I will bow down to your god. Give me a link to a pie chart, a pareto chart, an article, a video, a Gallup poll, etc., with info about "99% of doctors" not brushing off near death experiences.
One thing that I noticed most of you failed to acknowledge is the fact that the kid's DAD is a PASTOR!
Umm...
Unless I'm mistaken, this must mean the child is overly religious as well, am I right?
With that fact in your f0cking brain now, do you not think the child would naturally hallucinate about being in heaven? I bet if you were to ask him who else he saw in heaven, every figure he'd describe to you would be a Caucasian person. I'm assuming that must mean all Whites go to heaven, right? Apparently, Jesus Christ was White, even though he was born in the Middle East. . .
This isn't a post made to bash Caucasians. No, on the contraire, it's to say that I doubt this child's near death experience equated to an out-of-body experience in which he encountered some holy creator, who apparently is sooooooooooooooooooo big that he could hold the Earth in his hand.

I know people WANT to believe that there is life after death, that we don't die and just rot in the ground, that our lives do have meaning... Hell, I don't blame anyone for thinking that. I wish heaven did exist, but I doubt it. I really do.
I have no chart, no info other than I have seen a hundred doctors call them medical miracles and NONE that completely discrete them...there are a few that have come forward with theories and that is it...I said it "MIGHT" be 99% but hell it might be 100%...IDK

This kid's story migtht be false, although in order for it to be false the parents would have to be in on it...OR maybe he had an NDE...

my statements in here are more toward NDEs in general...not this particulr NDE...most NDEers don't see Jesus...
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The traits of a classical NDE are as follows:

Receiving messages in telepathic form.

A sense/awareness of being dead.[16][18]

A sense of peace, well-being and painlessness. Positive emotions. A feeling of being removed from the world.[16][18][19]

An out-of-body experience. A perception of one's body from an outside position. Sometimes observing doctors and nurses performing medical resuscitation efforts.[16][18][19][20]

A "tunnel experience". A sense of moving up, or through, a passageway or staircase.[16][18][20]

A rapid movement toward and/or sudden immersion in a powerful light. Communication with the light.[18][19]

An intense feeling of unconditional love.[19]

Encountering "Beings of Light", "Beings dressed in white", or other spiritual beings. Also, the possibility of being reunited with deceased loved ones.[16][19][20]

Being given a life review.[16][18][19]

Being presented with knowledge about one's life and the nature of the universe.[19]

A decision by oneself or others to return to one's body, often accompanied by a reluctance to return.[16][19][20]

Approaching a border.[18]

There also seems to be a link between the cultural and spiritual beliefs where one lives. These seem to dictate what is experienced in the NDE or how it is interpreted afterwards (Holden, Janice Miner. Handbook of Near-Death Experiences. Library of Congress Cataloging in Publishing Data, 2009.).

^^^ that is what happens to everyone when they have an NDE for the most part....there is usually SOME SMALL differences in the stories, but it is always around those guides...

IF these are dreams or a brain trip then:

A. they all have the same dream/trip

B. they have the abililty to leave their body in this dream, go where thier body isn't...(OBE)

C. they can retrieve information where thier body was not, or from past lives, in many situations they claim to have info fromthe future, have seen their own kids before they have them, ect...
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These seem to dictate what is experienced in the NDE or how it is interpreted afterwards


^^^ notice that part right there...

this kid saw or met someone that he intrepreted as "Jesus"...

that doesn't mean he saw Jesus...it just means that is what he choose to call it...what others just refer to as 'God"

maybe anotehr NDEer would call it "Budha"...but they both describe it as the exact same thing...they both saw the same thing...and they are both POSITIVE it was real...more real than life here even...
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I knew it, playmaker gonna love this shit.
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