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Death Before Dishonor
Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
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meat mountain
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
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Verticle?
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
No. Chris Paul has 3 all defensive first teams. Let that sink in.
Also, Clifford Robinson made teams, and I always thought he was a particularly lousy defender than got exposed on backdoor cuts all day. Reminds me of Melo and Durant in that regard.
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Big Sexy
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Originally Posted by plowking
No. Chris Paul has 3 all defensive first teams. Let that sink in.
CP3 is quick with his footwork against other PGs and is a lane thief and a picket pocket.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
cp3 is a very good defender. hes obviously a little small, but its not like teams go at him in the post.
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Verticle?
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Originally Posted by KyleKong
CP3 is quick with his footwork against other PGs and is a lane thief and a picket pocket.
Hes great at lanes and pick pocket, but he gives up the lane far too easy, and bigger guards do back him down. I just don't think he impacts the game enough on that side of the court to ever merit a selection. You have guards like Wade, Bradley, etc who can defend 1-3, and put up decent stats to boot.
I just don't see how a guard like Paul could ever merit a selection over Wade.
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Trump Towers
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Kobe being in All NBA defensive teams since 09' is a joke
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Titles are overrated
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
As AI said years ago Larry Hughes made all D just by gambling in passing lanes the same was Iverson himself got hated on for by some.
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sahelanthropus
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Bird was a very good help defender, definitely not the worst player to be named All-D.
The worst selections are generally star players who get it (politics) or once-great defenders who have long since declined.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
wade's effort is extremely inconsistent
wade at his best might be the best defensive guard in the league, but he doesnt bring it as consistently as cp3, imo.
there arent really any pgs who can take advantage of cp3's size disadvantage, except westbrook at times
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
As AI said years ago Larry Hughes made all D just by gambling in passing lanes the same was Iverson himself got hated on for by some.
do you think that could happen today? a poor defender who just gambles, and trick coaches into thinking hes a good defender?
aside from some guys getting onto the defensive teams based on reputation, i think they are pretty good.
Last edited by chips93; 10-15-2013 at 12:32 PM.
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Verticle?
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Originally Posted by chips93
wade's effort is extremely inconsistent
wade at his best might be the best defensive guard in the league, but he doesnt bring it as consistently as cp3, imo.
there arent really any pgs who can take advantage of cp3's size disadvantage, except westbrook at times
do you think that could happen today? a poor defender who just gambles, and trick coaches into thinking hes a good defender?
aside from some guys getting onto the defensive teams based on reputation, i think they are pretty good.
Bigger guards do go at him. Deron always plays him well. And I still remember Billups taking it to him in the playoffs where NO got done by 40 something points.
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College star
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Kobe got a couple more based on reputation alone...
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you can't stop me
Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
idea of ANY of those 1980s beast small forwards making all defense is a joke
great..perhaps greatest era for small forward play (offensively)..but NONE of those guys played defense.....except for moncrief
idea that bird was a good help defender....is a joke
people see a highlight reel of Bird making key steals in the playoffs and accept that he was a good help defender
those 1980s threes abused each other and all played matador defense..including and especially Larry Bird
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Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
LeBron and Bird are the first two that come to mind
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Re: Was Bird the worst defender to ever be on the All NBA Defensive team?
Originally Posted by get these NETS
idea of ANY of those 1980s beast small forwards making all defense is a joke
great..perhaps greatest era for small forward play (offensively)..but NONE of those guys played defense.....except for moncrief
idea that bird was a good help defender....is a joke
people see a highlight reel of Bird making key steals in the playoffs and accept that he was a good help defender
those 1980s threes abused each other and all played matador defense..including and especially Larry Bird
Sounds eerily similar to another player I know...
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