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Old 03-09-2009, 04:10 PM   #46
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my goodness is anyone not biased?

Nice example btw, although the Lakers beat the healthy Celts with and without Bynum so your analogy is meaningless.

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No, winning those games doesn't hand them a championship - but saying it doesn't matter shows you're a homer dunce.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:30 PM   #47
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Without Gasol, there isn't the Lakers. I don't know why they say Kobe and the Lakers when it is clearly the Lakers and Kobe. If Gasol took the amount of shots Kobe normally gets, Gasol would hit more than half of them. He would average more points. The Lakers would win the ship easily. And Kobe would demand to be traded.

I agree 100% with this.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:32 PM   #48
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Kobe is more valuable to the Lakers than Gasol is.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:36 PM   #49
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Kobe is more valuable to the Lakers than Gasol is.

of course he is, we laker fans know that. these guys just watch highlights i watch 82 full laker games a season.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:09 PM   #50
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I think that Gasol is the Lakers MVP because he is such an effective player. He is a good passe for a big, shoots a great percentage, and is the perfect number 2 option for the triangle offense. Kobe is more important offensively, but defensively Gasol is the MVP of the team, and IMO if there was a team MVP Gasol should win it, but Kobe would based on his reputation, kind of like every other NBA award.

Any way Gasol is certainly capable to win finals MVP, and very well could if the Lakers win the championship. Kobe is known to be less effective in the finals then in the regular season so any thing is possible. One possiblitity is that Kobe wants to add that F MVP to his resume and goes into vintage Kobe mode and chucks his team into losing trying to get numbers.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:12 PM   #51
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Kobe to Gasol is Jordan to Pip, Magic to Kareem, Duncan to Parker. Not comparing the 2 duos. Just saying that while its known Jordan was the best player on that Bulls team, its also known how much of an impact Pip had and that they wouldnt have been that winning of a team without him. Same with the Lakers. Kobe is the bets player, but w/o Gasol they are a subpar team. They both need each other
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:18 PM   #52
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I think that Gasol is the Lakers MVP because he is such an effective player. He is a good passe for a big, shoots a great percentage, and is the perfect number 2 option for the triangle offense. Kobe is more important offensively, but defensively Gasol is the MVP of the team, and IMO if there was a team MVP Gasol should win it, but Kobe would based on his reputation, kind of like every other NBA award.

Any way Gasol is certainly capable to win finals MVP, and very well could if the Lakers win the championship. Kobe is known to be less effective in the finals then in the regular season so any thing is possible. One possiblitity is that Kobe wants to add that F MVP to his resume and goes into vintage Kobe mode and chucks his team into losing trying to get numbers.

dude, your first paragraph makes no sense. you call Gasol the #2 option, yet call him team MVP. trolling or what?

And, Gasol is NOT their DEFENSIVE MVP. Not even close. Kobe regularly defends the best opponents. Gasol can barely anchor the middle defensively. He is a poor defensive replacement for Bynum. Hell, Odom is better than Gasol.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:18 PM   #53
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Kobe is more valuable to the Lakers than Gasol is.

If Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers, they wouldn't need Gasol. With Gasol, Kobe won his first MVP.

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Old 03-09-2009, 06:22 PM   #54
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If Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers, they wouldn't need Gasol.

Maybe the single worst comment I've seen this year on ISH (because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you mean it and aren't trolling).
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:25 PM   #55
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If Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers, they wouldn't need Gasol.
That makes no sense, so the Lakers don't need Kobe since Gasol is the MVP?
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:31 PM   #56
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If Kobe was so great, he could get the job done without any support. If he could score 81 points in the regular season, he should be able to dominate in the playoffs. The hype he gets "Kobe and the Lakers," suggest that he has bigger than his teammates. When in reality, his teammates are the reason why he's even in the finals or regular season MVP. Great players like the Tom Brady had great teammates. But they also delivered when it mattered = super bowl. 3 rings. Crucial fourth quarter drives. And when the Patriots lost, by how much? Less than a TD. With Kobe, 39 pt blowout in game six. Game four 24 pt lead blown. Where is that Tom Brady on the Lakers?

Hype Kobe to be the best, when he has failed to deliver when it matters.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:39 PM   #57
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at the idiots who think Gasol is the Lakers MVP.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:05 PM   #58
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If Kobe was more valuable to the Lakers, they wouldn't need Gasol. With Gasol, Kobe won his first MVP.
Your logic is so flawed, I don't even know where to start.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:33 PM   #59
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If Kobe was so great, he could get the job done without any support. If he could score 81 points in the regular season, he should be able to dominate in the playoffs. The hype he gets "Kobe and the Lakers," suggest that he has bigger than his teammates. When in reality, his teammates are the reason why he's even in the finals or regular season MVP. Great players like the Tom Brady had great teammates. But they also delivered when it mattered = super bowl. 3 rings. Crucial fourth quarter drives. And when the Patriots lost, by how much? Less than a TD. With Kobe, 39 pt blowout in game six. Game four 24 pt lead blown. Where is that Tom Brady on the Lakers?

Hype Kobe to be the best, when he has failed to deliver when it matters.

Go away troll, obviously you dont know what you're talking about.
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