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Old 09-14-2018, 04:10 PM   #16
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I think you meant to say Bran in 2007, 2011, 2015*

And we can say Kobe in 2000, 2004 and 2008 too. So what? Whether its Kobe or Lebron, the terrible performances in NBA Finals cannot be defended. Shit performance is shit performance, you cant deny facts.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:22 PM   #17
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You know there is no argument for Kobe > Lebron in the finals when you have to ignore 99% of the game and focus on a cherry-picked 1%.

OP is so desperate that I'm actually embarrassed for him.

There is no need to make Kobe > LeBron argument. Kenny already educated you on why Kobe > LeBron. That ship set sail awhile ago. This thread is purely about being clutch in the NBA FINALS. LeBron just isn't clutch when it matters most and 0/5 attempts in the finals tells us exactly that. We don't need to reference playoff play where pressure is lesser, or talk about stats, or whatever other nonsense. This is about clutch shots in the finals, as in a game winning or tying shot when your team isn't already up in points.

Try to keep up next time.
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:43 PM   #18
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Kobe is 2-15
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:06 PM   #19
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Kobe is 2-15

damn, i thought he was the clutch god
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:32 PM   #20
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damn, i thought he was the clutch god

No one said this. What was said is that he's clutch enough to win 5 finals and only lose 2 of them, whereas LeBron can't even be clutch enough to win more than 3 finals and instead lost 6 of them.

Shrunk when it mattered most.

At least Kobe has an excuse for losing twice due to being worn out with the real finals being the WCF.
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:36 PM   #21
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No one said this. What was said is that he's clutch enough to win 5 finals and only lose 2 of them, whereas LeBron can't even be clutch enough to win more than 3 finals and instead lost 6 of them.

Shrunk when it mattered most.

At least Kobe has an excuse for losing twice due to being worn out with the real finals being the WCF.
Kobe shrunk but his team bailed him out
Fisher in 09
Gasol and World peace in 2010
Carried by Shaq in 2000
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:49 PM   #22
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Kobe shrunk but his team bailed him out
Fisher in 09
Gasol and World peace in 2010
Carried by Shaq in 2000

No one got bailed out more than LeBron who got saved by Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving.... 2 of the 3 greatest finals shots of all time.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:02 PM   #23
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No one got bailed out more than LeBron who got saved by Ray Allen and Kyrie Irving.... 2 of the 3 greatest finals shots of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JIzQPZH8qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSnAvhvfniw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm9l1T_0Mt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

That's 6 times Kobe has gotten bailed out just off the top of my head. If i really looked i could've found at least 10 more instances. LeBron only has gotten bailed by his teammates twice in his entire career which is less than Kobe and Jordan
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:06 PM   #24
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There is no need to make Kobe > LeBron argument. Kenny already educated you on why Kobe > LeBron. That ship set sail awhile ago. This thread is purely about being clutch in the NBA FINALS. LeBron just isn't clutch when it matters most and 0/5 attempts in the finals tells us exactly that. We don't need to reference playoff play where pressure is lesser, or talk about stats, or whatever other nonsense. This is about clutch shots in the finals, as in a game winning or tying shot when your team isn't already up in points.

Try to keep up next time.

You're right there is no need to make that argument, because there is no argument. Lebron > Kobe and it will be that way forever.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:06 PM   #25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JIzQPZH8qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSnAvhvfniw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm9l1T_0Mt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4seP2wD_K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mT99HCFFI

That's 6 times Kobe has gotten bailed out just off the top of my head. If i really looked i could've found at least 10 more instances. LeBron only has gotten bailed by his teammates twice in his entire career which is less than Kobe and Jordan
Before the remastered modern day version 'bailout' was coined aka making the right play


This was the actual step for step original definition of it








Kobestans took a 20 year heckling for these typical plays
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:59 AM   #26
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Actually came into the thread to congratulate Op for his 1st non lebron thread ever but..........
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:01 AM   #27
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Honestly if you have Bird over Durant then you have Bird over Kobe as well
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:11 AM   #28
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Actually came into the thread to congratulate Op for his 1st non lebron thread ever but..........
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