Lebron played on 2 back to back 60+ win teams

[BlueandGold]

yet kobe is playing on the stacked team? At the end of the trade deadline this season after the Cavs acquired Jamison everyone on ISH and around the NBA was saying that the Cavs by far had the best team from top to bottom yet when they got bounced out of the playoffs in the seminfinals (a feat no #1 seed has accomplished since Golden state beat the mavs) it was all about how Boston was all of a sudden the better team with better veteran/all-around talent.

I'm sorry but you can't have the best of both worlds. You can't cry about having an inferior supporting cast when you've been trumped out of the playoffs by teams with the worse record two seasons in a row, especially two 60+ win seasons. having 60+ wins and losing to a team with 50 wins total that are facing all sorts of injury and old age problems is unacceptable, especially when the leader and superstar of that team is a no-show in a pivotal game 5.

[Skyscraper]

Cavaliers ate up the Eastern conference weaklings.

[VishaltotheG]

teammates are chokers

/thread

[ginobli2311]

yet kobe is playing on the stacked team? At the end of the trade deadline this season after the Cavs acquired Jamison everyone on ISH and around the NBA was saying that the Cavs by far had the best team from top to bottom yet when they got bounced out of the playoffs in the seminfinals (a feat no #1 seed has accomplished since Golden state beat the mavs) it was all about how Boston was all of a sudden the better team with better veteran/all-around talent.

I'm sorry but you can't have the best of both worlds. You can't cry about having an inferior supporting cast when you've been trumped out of the playoffs by teams with the worse record two seasons in a row, especially two 60+ win seasons. having 60+ wins and losing to a team with 50 wins total that are facing all sorts of injury and old age problems is unacceptable, especially when the leader and superstar of that team is a no-show in a pivotal game 5.

lol....your whole premise is flawed. they won 60 because lebron played at a such a high level. a much higher level than kobe has ever played at any point in his career.

sorry.....your post fails.

why not just watch and judge the actual players. if you think gasol/odom/bynum/fisher/artest is not significantly better than mo/jamison/shaq/west/andy......then you need help.

lebron's greatness is now becoming his own worst enemy because people like you don't understand the game at all.


my god about the cavs losing to the celtics. did you watch the celtics dominate the magic? did you watch them dominate the lakers? kobe looked like a boy amongst men out there for the series. the finals is perfect evidence that the supporting cast for the lakers is far far greater. end of story. kobe played like ass in every 4th qtr, played like ass overall, and played one of the worst game 7's in nba history.....and the lakers still won. LOL

[PowerGlove]

Yeah, I'm sure Mo Williams would chase Ray around shutting him down most of the series like Derek Fisher and I'm sure that Jamison would become a rebounding machine like Gasol and I especially sure that Anthony Parker or Mo(whoever) would become a knockdown shooter and step up when their star has an off game.

100% sure.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Mo Will = Fisher
Parker << Artest
Jamison <<<<<<<<<<< Gasol
Shaq <<<< Bynum

[Indian guy]

LeBron having 2 of the 5-10 greatest regular seasons of ALL TIME is a BIG reason why they won 60+ games to begin with.

[NewYorkUSCtrojan]

not this again...

[chazzy]

The Cavs did lose to the team that nearly won the title, so it's not like it's a huge upset in retrospect. But let's not act like Lebron played great and the only reason why they lost was because his team let him down. He was sub par in 3, or all the losses depending on how much you value those rebounds and turnovers in the last game.

[griffmoney2084]

its not that any one player on the cavs is as good as gasol

but they have a deap team


williams can go off for 20 points on any night

west never seems to miss a shot when i watch him play

jamison was putting up 20/10 before getting there

shaq was putting up 17/10 before getting there

big z is the best backup center in the nba

sideshow bob is one of the best defenders in the league


its a good team

lebron fans are just mad cause lebong flames choked

[ginobli2311]

LeBron having 2 of the 5-10 greatest regular seasons of ALL TIME is a BIG reason why they won 60+ games to begin with.

exactly. god help all of you if lebron every gets to play with another legit top 10 player in the league with some good role players and a good coach. they will destroy the league.

the sad thing is that lebron just wasted two of the best years of all time playing for a pathetic coach in mike brown and with pathetic players like mo/jamison/shaq/pavlovic/west......ferry should be ashamed.

[boozehound]

they got bounced out of the playoffs in the seminfinals (a feat no #1 seed has accomplished since Golden state beat the mavs) .

uh, fail.

[All Net]

Funny thing is the Cavs were somehow considered favourites to win it all when they got Jamison and they were heading into the playoffs yet when they lose the are considered trash team-mates. You can't have it both ways.

[ginobli2311]

The Cavs did lose to the team that nearly won the title, so it's not like it's a huge upset in retrospect. But let's not act like Lebron played great and the only reason why they lost was because his team let him down. He was sub par in 3, or all the losses depending on how much you value those rebounds and turnovers in the last game.

i agree. lebron did not have a great series. but that is the point. lebron literally has to play perfect for that group to win games against good teams. look at orlando last year and now boston this year. look at how poorly kobe played overall compared to lebron......and his team won the title against the same team.

you just can't compare the two teams at all......and you also can't compare lebron to kobe....because lebron is just so much better right now even when he is off.

[Doranku]

So basically LeBron gets all the praise for being the sole reason for the Cavs winning 60 games, but none of the criticism for losing in the ECSF.

lol