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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by Miller for 3
Gus Williams should be in. Only person to be the best player on a championship NBA team and not be in the HOF. In fact he was the best player on a team that made 3 straight WCF trips, 2 Finals, fell apart when he sat out a year in a contract dispute, and then went back to winning 50+ games when he returned.
Him not being in is a disgrace to the sport and makes it obvious how the league has blackballed him for wanting to have a more appropriate salary. Who can blame him, after all sportswriters colluded against him to award Dennis Johnson the 79 FMVP, only to make DJ feel better after he shot 0-14 in game 7 of the 78 Finals
Please write a letter to the league office demanding Gus Williams to be inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame. Gus led both a Western Conference and Eastern Conference team to the playoffs, something Magic, Bird, MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Russell, Duncan, and Hakeem never did.
He also was voted to the All NBA first team over Magic in I think 1982?
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Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by pudman13
Good points by Steve except that I'd suggest you're undervaluing the negative effect of so many turnovers. That's also something Maravich is given a pass on but shouldn't be.
I'm not suggesting they should be ignored but they shouldn't necessarily overshadow all the good things he did on the court too (much in the same vein as Maravich). For some people, all they know about McGinnis is his turnovers (mainly due to the hit job Simmons did on him in his book) and that's really unfortunate.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by steve
I'm not suggesting they should be ignored but they shouldn't necessarily overshadow all the good things he did on the court too (much in the same vein as Maravich). For some people, all they know about McGinnis is his turnovers (mainly due to the hit job Simmons did on him in his book) and that's really unfortunate.
McGinnis will probably be the next ABA'er to get in. Since they have their own comity, one has been getting inducted every year since 2011.
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Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
McGinnis will probably be the next ABA'er to get in. Since they have their own comity, one has been getting inducted every year since 2011.
It'll either be him or Slick Leonard.
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why I even like Rondo
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Im not checking the list but I assume theyre all black. Racist.
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Coach
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
-Rudy Tomjanovich
-Norm Van Lier (8 All-D Teams)
-Jo Jo White (NBA Finals MVP)
-Paul Westphal (3 All-NBA 1st Teams)
-Bernard King
-Sidney Moncrief
-Mark Aguirre
-Tom Chambers
-Mark Price
-Brad Daugherty
-Kevin Johnson
-Tim Hardaway
-Shawn Kemp
-Mitch Richmond
Why aren't these guys in the HOF yet
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
-Mitch Richmond
-Alonzo Mourning
Two more.
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Mullin >>> Bird
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
-Rudy Tomjanovich
-Norm Van Lier (8 All-D Teams)
-Jo Jo White (NBA Finals MVP)
-Paul Westphal (3 All-NBA 1st Teams)
-Bernard King
-Sidney Moncrief
-Mark Aguirre
-Tom Chambers
-Mark Price
-Brad Daugherty
-Kevin Johnson
-Tim Hardaway
-Shawn Kemp
-Mitch Richmond
Why aren't these guys in the HOF yet
Because a lot of them had half a career. What did Mark Price ever do? How can you have 2 guys from the same team who never even made a final in the HoF?
Stop smoking san.
The bigger travesty is the Failman making it.
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NBA Legend
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by nycelt84
None of those players listed who are already eligible should be inducted into the Hall of Fame should be inducted. In fact there's about 50 players in the Hall who don't belong in such an institution anyway such as Jamaal Wilkes, Frank Ramsey, K.C. Jones, Ralph Sampson and others.
This.
And part of the problem is that there is no NBA HOF. It is the Basketball HOF, which explains players like KC Jones and Tom Gola, or the fact that there are players who never even played in the NBA in it, as well as women.
But almost every major team sport has just been saturated with "HOFers", ...players who were merely good, and never great. What amazes me is that there seems to be no real criteria, either. For instance, can someone explain to me how Paul Hornung is in the HOF, and Terrell Davis is not? Or why Don Sutton, (yes, I know...he won 300 games) is in, and yet Ron Guidry or Doc Gooden are not? At least a prime Guidry and Gooden were almost unhittable. Meanwhile, Sutton had ONE 20 win season (21 to be exact), and a plethora of average one's. Hell, there were seasons in which a prime Sutton was only his team's 3rd or 4th best pitcher.
I could go on. All of these "HOF's" are littered with players who have no business being enshrined next to the true "immortals." If anything, these HOF's ought to at least consider "tiers", and separate the truly great from the merely good.
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Born again Cavs fan
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by Miller for 3
Gus Williams should be in. Only person to be the best player on a championship NBA team and not be in the HOF. In fact he was the best player on a team that made 3 straight WCF trips, 2 Finals, fell apart when he sat out a year in a contract dispute, and then went back to winning 50+ games when he returned.
Him not being in is a disgrace to the sport and makes it obvious how the league has blackballed him for wanting to have a more appropriate salary. Who can blame him, after all sportswriters colluded against him to award Dennis Johnson the 79 FMVP, only to make DJ feel better after he shot 0-14 in game 7 of the 78 Finals
Please write a letter to the league office demanding Gus Williams to be inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame. Gus led both a Western Conference and Eastern Conference team to the playoffs, something Magic, Bird, MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Russell, Duncan, and Hakeem never did.
wtf is your problem. all of these dudes are one team players........you cannot blame them for not accomplishing some stupid arbritary accomplishment you consider important.
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Local High School Star
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Alonzo Mourning and Mitch Richmond are getting in.
Now just need Tim Hardaway to get it to complete the Run TMC trio.
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Local High School Star
Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by Miller for 3
Gus Williams should be in. Only person to be the best player on a championship NBA team and not be in the HOF. In fact he was the best player on a team that made 3 straight WCF trips, 2 Finals, fell apart when he sat out a year in a contract dispute, and then went back to winning 50+ games when he returned.
Him not being in is a disgrace to the sport and makes it obvious how the league has blackballed him for wanting to have a more appropriate salary. Who can blame him, after all sportswriters colluded against him to award Dennis Johnson the 79 FMVP, only to make DJ feel better after he shot 0-14 in game 7 of the 78 Finals
Please write a letter to the league office demanding Gus Williams to be inducted into the basketball Hall of Fame. Gus led both a Western Conference and Eastern Conference team to the playoffs, something Magic, Bird, MJ, Kobe, Lebron, Russell, Duncan, and Hakeem never did.
That's not some amazing accomplishment. The front offices did what they could to keep guys like Magic, Bird, Jordan, etc...from going to another team (no matter what conference) because they were such great players.
Originally Posted by bballnoob1192
wtf is your problem. all of these dudes are one team players........you cannot blame them for not accomplishing some stupid arbritary accomplishment you consider important.
Yeah, damn those players for staying with one team for their whole careers (or the great majority of it). They should have been 'expendable' so they could go to another conference.
Only Lebron of those guys listed did not spend his whole prime with one team.
Imagine what backlashes the front offices would take if they traded a Bird, Magic, or Jordan in their primes.
Last edited by Stringer Bell; 08-06-2014 at 11:44 AM.
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Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Originally Posted by nycelt84
None of those players listed who are already eligible should be inducted into the Hall of Fame should be inducted. In fact there's about 50 players in the Hall who don't belong in such an institution anyway such as Jamaal Wilkes, Frank Ramsey, K.C. Jones, Ralph Sampson and others.
I'm assuming Ralph Sampson is in for what he did in college. He definitely didn't have a HOF pro career.
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Re: List of Eligible Players not in the Basketball Hall
Bobby Jones isn't in? Why?
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