30-point games in the NBA playoffs

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=Colby Brian]Kobes ranks in playoffs

* 3-point field goals made

[24r2]

thats because he WINS,

[OldSchoolBBall]

kobe has 48 30 point games in the playoffs without shaq in 82 games (2006-11 playoffs), which is 59% (48/82)
jordan has 109 30 points game out of 179 total game, which is 60%

kobe without shaq - 59% of his playoff games are 30+
jordan 60%

We're gonna act like Kobe had no chance to score 30+ with Shaq when he was taking 20-25 FGA/gm? Please. Maybe if he wasn't busy shooting 43% in the playoffs every year...

[32jazz]

I added some info. Not really so close when you look at it that way.

And MJ has taken over 400 or 500 hundred more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of playoff games.( And about 300 more free throw attempts than Kobe.)

So it's not even close & obvious that MJ was the biggest ballhog of the two.

Kobe has never seriously nor on a consistent basis approached MJ's level of ballhogging.

And if Kobe eventually catches MJ's overall point total (regular season & playoffs barring injuries) he will do it in far more games than MJ it's true ,but essentially the same number of FGA's as that Ballhogging shoe salsman MJ.

[Allstar24]

And MJ has taken over 400 or 500 hundred more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of playoff games.( And about 300 more free throw attempts than Kobe.)

So it's not even close & obvious that MJ was the biggest ballhog of the two.

Kobe has never seriously nor on a consistent basis approached MJ's level of ballhogging.

And if Kobe eventually catches MJ's overall point total (regular season & playoffs barring injuries) he will do it in far more games than MJ it's true ,but essentially the same number of FGA's as that Ballhogging shoe salsman MJ.

Loki = OWNED.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Stay trolling, 32jazz.

Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.

[Mr. Incredible]

Op needs to hop off Kobe's ish.

Your boy will never ever be close to Jordan. Face the facts.

[32jazz]

We're gonna act like Kobe had no chance to score 30+ with Shaq when he was taking 20-25 FGA/gm? Please. Maybe if he wasn't busy shooting 43% in the playoffs every year...

Were gonna act like Kobe has consistently jacked up as many shots as MJ?

Losers like you can continually obssess over Kobe's FG% ,but fact is he will have essentially in more games the same number of FGA's as MJ when he surpasses him(barring injuries).

[Allstar24]

Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.

This guy is so desperate, he'll grasp at anything now.

Kobe in the regular season since 2009:

'09 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 36 mpg)
'10 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (73 games, 39 mgp)
'11 season: 25ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 34 mpg)

How is that saving himself for the playoffs? He's been putting up his usual numbers, only a drop in his point total this year due to the obvious decrease in minutes. Give it up already.

[OldSchoolBBall]

This guy is so desperate, he'll grasp at anything now.

Kobe in the regular season since 2009:

'09 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 36 mpg)
'10 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (73 games, 39 mgp)
'11 season: 25ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 34 mpg)

How is that saving himself for the playoffs? He's been putting up his usual numbers, only a drop in his point total this year due to the obvious decrease in minutes. Give it up already.

Yeah, I guess the commentaries from numerous analysts as well as numerous LAKER FANS THEMSELVES over the last few years are all incorrect. Sure.

[Allstar24]

^Riiight...because "commentaries" are more telling than actual FACTS. Show me which part of his numbers, minutes or games played per season indicates he was saving himself for the playoffs? If there's one thing I know about him after watching him for 15 years, its that he never takes a night off. The guy plays hard every time he steps on the court, sometimes a little too hard to the detriment of the team but that is who he is and also what makes him a legend. Try again.

[32jazz]

Stay trolling, 32jazz.

Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.

B**tch slapping a clown like you with facts is called "trolling' now?


1)Despite this nonsense of Kobe 'saving himself' in the regular season he will still catch MJ scoring (barring injuries)in the regular season with essentially the same nuumber of FGA's & way fewer free throws.

2)Barring injuries Kobe will catch MJ scoring in the playoffs in more games ,but essentially the same number of FGA's & fewer free throws.


Who cares what analysts 'assume' about Kobe's play?

Check Kobe's minutes & games played & tell me how the hell he "saves himself' despite the nagging injuries.

Despite what you believe a few guys on the Net & what some analysts say about Kobe's game is meaningless.

Kobe has earned the right to take games of down the stretch, yet he doesn't. Kobe refuses to sit despite nagging injuries & the wishes of Phil Jackson.

[32jazz]

^Riiight...because "commentaries" are more telling than actual FACTS. Show me which part of his numbers, minutes or games played per season indicates he was saving himself for the playoffs? If there's one thing I know about him after watching him for 15 years, its that he never takes a night off. The guy plays hard every time he steps on the court, sometimes a little too hard to the detriment of the team but that is who he is and also what makes him a legend. Try again.

Great post

Too add to your earlier post about the FACT that Kobe hasn't played less than 35 minutes per game ,but once in the past 6 seasons(over 40mpg twice) & only missed 14 games over that short period.


This despite the mileage (people like to talk about) & the nagging injuries Kobe keeps going. Hell I'm a Laker fan & I even take the guy for granted at times despite the pain & minutes he endures.


Funny how Kobe haters/ MJ worshippers get off track once you mention the facts:

1) Kobe has played the same number of playoiff games as MJ ,but taken 500 fewer FGA's & nearly 300 less free throws. Kobe will essentially surpass MJ with the same number of FGA's & less free throws (barring injury).

2) Same goes for the regular season. MJ has taken around 4000 more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of games . Kobe (barring injury) will surpass him essentially with the same number of FGA's & wayyyyy fewer free throws.

[jlauber]

Wilt had less than 60 thirty point playoff games?

I have never taken the time to research Wilt's 30+ point playoff games. He does rank 4th in 40+ games, with 13, and 2nd in 50+ point games, with four. His scoring dropped in the post-season for a variety of reasons. One, most knowledgeable observers point out that Wilt had two halves to his career (I actually have it with THREE different stages...his "scoring" seasons, his "balanced" seasons, and his "post-injury" seasons.) In the first half of his career, his first seven seasons, he averaged 40 ppg...combined. In the second half of his career, he averaged about 20 ppg.

However, he "only" played in six post-seasons, in his first seven years. His 62-63 roster, arguably the worst in NBA history, was so bad that his team went 31-49 (although they only had a -2.1 differential, and lost 35 games by single digits.) So, unlike MJ's '86 Bulls, which went 30-52, Wilt's 62-63 Warriors did not make the playoffs. And that is significant. In that 62-63 season, Wilt averaged 45 ppg on 53% shooting. He even averaged 38 ppg against Russell in nine H2H games.

Still, in those six post-seasons, he averaged 33 ppg, with entire post-seasons of 37 ppg and 35 ppg (and three playoff series of 39, 38 and 38 ppg.) In any case, Wilt only played 52 of his 160 post-season games, in his "scoring" seasons.

In the second half of his career, Wilt dramatically cut back his shooting...mainly because he had quality teammates. Here again, there were a variety of reasons, but there were instances where his COACH made the decision to not get Wilt the ball. He still had some explosive games, even in year's when he was only shooting 13-16 FGAs per game, though. He had a 41 point game, on 19-30 shooting, as well as a 37 point game, on 16-24 shooting, against the Royals in the '67 playoffs. He had a 33 point game against Russell in the '68 ECF's. He had a 45-27 game, on 20-27 shooting, and on ONE leg, in the '70 Finals.

The other major factor in Wilt's reduced scoring, was the fact that he faced a HOF center in about two-thirds of his 160 post-season games. He went H2H with Thurmond in 17 games; Reed in 18; Bellamy in six; Lucas (yes he played center later in his career) in 14; Kareem in 11; and Russell in 49. Think about that...he faced Russell, and the Celtic Dynasty in nearly ONE-THIRD of his playoff games. Still, he had 20 games of 30+ points against Russell, including five of 40+, and even one of 50 (along with 35 rebounds BTW.)

And, for those that disparage Wilt based on his reduced scoring in the post-season, he played in 29 post-season series, and was outscored in very few. I could only find ONE in which he was outshot, and even in that one, he only missed 20 shots total, while his opponent, Kareem, missed 107. And, he was NEVER outrebounded in ANY of those 29 series. A case could be made that Wilt was never outplayed in any of them, as well. Furthermore, there were MANY in which he just CRUSHED his opposing centers.

[Disaprine]

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