#7 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[scandisk_]

Let's be real. Shaq would have made Wilt and Russell his bitches if he played in their era or if they played in his.

BULLSH*T! Switch their situations and Russ and Wilt would shit on Shaq. If Shaq was born in the 30's dang he'll probably more like a poor man's Wilt. Can't bulldoze your way to the ring bitch

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe

[Rolando]

moron

Shaq carried Kobe.

Rating Kobe above Shaq doesn't make sense.

[kennethgriffin]

The Big Cactus

Kobe 5 rings > Shaq 4 rings

Shaq

Kobe 7 finals > Shaq 6 finals

Shaq

Kobe 81 points > Shaq 61 points

Diesel.

Kobe 25/5/5 > Shaq 23/11/2

The big Aristotle

Kobe 10 all nba first teams > Shaq 8 all nba first teams

Shaquille O'Neal.

Kobe 9 all nba defensive first teams > shaq 0 all nba defensive first teams

Shaq

Kobe (6) 60+ point games > Shaq (1) 60+ point games

Shaq

Kobe (26) 50+ point games > Shaq (3) 50+ point games

Schwakeel Owneel!

Kobe 5 months averaging 40+ppg > Shaq 0 months averaging 40+ppg

shaq

Kobe Player of the decade by Sporting news > Shaq not

Shaq

Kobe Player of the decade by Sports Illustrated > Shaq not

shaq

Kobe Player of the decade by TNT > Shaq not

Shaq

Kobe 5th all time in points > Shaq 6th all time in points

Shaq

Kobe 3rd all time in playoff scoring > Shaq 4th all time in playoff scoring

Shaq daddy

Kobe 2 championships without shaq > Shaq 1 championship without kobe

Shaq

Kobe 0 times kicked off a team > Shaq 5 times kicked off a team

I vote for Kazaam!!

Kobe 4 straight 50 point games > Shaq 0 consecutive 50 point games

Shaq. He should have been #6, or maybe even 5.
Definitely voting for Kobe at #8 though.

Kobe Bryant 62 points in 3 quarters > Shaqs career high of 61 in 4 qtrs

shaq

40 point games = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

30 point games = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

20 point games = Kobe > SHaq

Shaq

Seasons averaging more than 30ppg = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

consecutive 30,35,40,45 point games = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

Championships without a legendary side kick = Kobe 2 > Shaq 0

Shaq

Consecutive Allstar starting appearances = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

Olympic Gold medals = Kobe 2 > Shaq 1

Shaq.

Offensive skills = Kobe > Shaq

This is when it gets tough. I reluctantly vote Shaq.

Defensive skills = Kobe > Shaq

shaq

play making skills = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

off hand skills = Kobe > Shaq

Shaqovich

Fundimentals = Kobe > Shaq

Forgot to vote. I vote Shaq

Longevity = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

Work Ethic = Kobe > Shaq

Let's be real. Shaq would have made Wilt and Russell his bitches if he played in their era or if they played in his.

Conditioning = Kobe > Shaq

Shaq

He would destroy wilt..

Shaq!

Kobe Bryant 42 game winning shots > Shaq .... not even 10


Dec 27, 1999: Los Angeles 108, Dallas 106
Description: Game Winning FTs with 8 seconds left.
May 09, 1999: Los Angeles 101, Houston 100
Playoffs: Game Winning FTs with 5 seconds left.
Nov 16, 2000: Los Angeles 112, Sacramento 110
Description: Tying 3-pointer for OT; Jumper over Vlade Divac with 24 seconds left.
May 10, 2000: Los Angeles 97, Phoenix 96
Playoffs: Jumper over Jason Kidd with 2 seconds left.
Jun 14, 2000: Los Angeles 120, Indiana 118
Playoffs: Overtime; Offensive Rebound, Layup with 5 seconds left.

Feb 07, 2001: Los Angeles 85, Phoenix 83
Description: Jumper over Shawn Marion with 2 seconds left.
Feb 13, 2001: Los Angeles 113, New Jersey 110
Description: Overtime; Layup over Kenyon Martin with 4 seconds left.
Jan 02, 2002: Los Angeles 87, Denver 86
Description: Offensive Rebound, Jumper with 55 seconds left.
Feb 22, 2002: Los Angeles 96, Charlotte 94
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over George Lynch.
May 12, 2002: Los Angeles 87, San Antonio 85
Playoffs: Offensive Rebound, Layup over David Robinson with 5 seconds left.

Dec 06, 2002: Los Angeles 105, Dallas 103
Description: Jumper over Dirk Nowitzki with 8 seconds left.
Dec 22, 2002: Los Angeles 109, Toronto 107
Description: Overtime; Layup over Morris Peterson with 33 seconds left.
Apr 04, 2003: Los Angeles 102, Memphis 101
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over Shane Battier.
Apr 06, 2003: Los Angeles 115, Phoenix 113
Description: Overtime; Tying Jumper over Joe Johnson for OT; Jumper over Shawn Marion with 28 left.
Dec 19, 2003: Los Angeles 101, Denver 99
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over Jon Barry.

Feb 17, 2004: Los Angeles 89, Portland 86
Description: Layup with 32 seconds left; Free Throw with 7 seconds left.
Mar 03, 2004: Los Angeles 96, Houston 93
Description: Jumper over Yao Ming with 32 seconds left.
Mar 21, 2004: Los Angeles 104, Milwaukee 103
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Keith Van Horn with 25 seconds left.
Apr 14, 2004: Los Angeles 105, Portland 104
Description: Buzzer Beater; Tying 3-pointer over Ruben Patterson for OT; 3-pointer over Theo Ratliff.
Apr 25, 2004: Los Angeles 92, Houston 88
Playoffs: Layup over Jim Jackson with 40 seconds left.

Mar 12, 2005: Los Angeles 117, Charlotte 116
Description: Jumper over Keith Bogans with 1 second left.
Nov 02, 2005: Los Angeles 99, Denver 97
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Eduardo Najera with 1 second left.
Dec 04, 2005: Los Angeles 99, Charlotte 98
Description: Game Winning FTs with 7 seconds left.
Dec 12, 2005: Los Angeles 109, Dallas 106
Description: 3-pointer over Adrian Griffin with 35 seconds left.
Jan 07, 2006: Los Angeles 112, L.A. Clippers 109
Description: Layup over Elton Brand with 11 seconds left.

Jan 12, 2006: Los Angeles 99, Cleveland 98
Description: Jumper over Lebron James with 8 seconds left.
Apr 30, 2006: Los Angeles 99, Phoenix 98
Playoffs: Buzzer Beater; Tying Layup over Boris Diaw for OT; Jumper over Raja Bell and Boris Diaw.
Jan 14, 2008: Los Angeles 123, Seatle 121
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Jeff Green with 4 seconds left.
May 21, 2008: Los Angeles 89, San Antonio 85
Playoffs: Jumper over Bruce Bowen with 23 seconds left.
Jan 09, 2009: Los Angeles 121, Indiana 119
Description: Jumper over Jarrett Jack with 3 seconds left.

Jan 13, 2009: Los Angeles 105, Houston 100
Description: 3-pointer over Shane Battier with 27 seconds left.
Dec 04, 2009: Los Angeles 108, Miami 107
Description: Buzzer Beater; 3-pointer over Dwayne Wade.
Dec 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106
Description: Buzzer Beater; Overtime; Jumper over Charlie Bell.
Jan 01, 2010: Los Angeles 109, Sacramento 108
Description: Buzzer Beater; 3-pointer.
Jan 13, 2010: Los Angeles 100, Dallas 95
Description: Jumper over Josh Howard with 28 seconds left.

Jan 31, 2010: Los Angeles 90, Boston 89
Description: Jumper over Ray Allen with 7 seconds left.
Feb 23, 2010: Los Angeles 99, Memphis 98
Description: 3-pointer over Rudy Gay with 4 seconds left.
Mar 09, 2010: Los Angeles 109, Toronto 107
Description: Jumper over Antoine Wright with 1 seconds left.
Feb 12, 2012: Los Angeles 94, Toronto 92
Description: Jumper over James Johnson with 4 seconds left.
Mar 09, 2012: Los Angeles 105, Minnesota 102
Description: Game Winning FTs with 16 seconds left.

Mar 27, 2012: Los Angeles 104, Golden State 101
Description: Jumper over Brandon Rush with 32 seconds left.
Mar 31, 2012: Los Angeles 88, New Orleans 85
Description: 3-pointer over Jarrett Jack with 20 seconds left.





this message board needs to wake up.

[kNIOKAS]

this message board needs to wake up.

0.582
0.453

what does that give you

[kennethgriffin]

Shaq carried Kobe.

Rating Kobe above Shaq doesn't make sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV2P6...elated#t=1m44s

[kennethgriffin]

0.582
0.453

what does that give you

so thats the end all be all... the 50 things i listed dont matter

so deandre jordan is now a top 10 player all time?

ofcourse a guy who shoots only layups and dunks will average a high %

[kennethgriffin]

heres the problem with shaq over kobe ( YOU HYPOCRITES )

you place him there over a criteria that shaqs more efficient and had a higher peak

if thats what we're looking at then why put the people you did ahead of him..

each vote the criteria for ranking changes.. everyone knows russell didnt have a peak like shaqs either... russell is ranked on career accomplishments... then when kobe is in the mix it becomes ( WHAT CAN WE MAKE IT ABOUT TO PUT SHAQ HIGHER THAN KOBE!!!! )


HYPOCRITES




if the factors used to put shaq over kobe were used for every other vote.. shaq would be top 3


DUMB F*********CKS

[Rolando]

Visual proof:

[kennethgriffin]

top 6 ( HEY LETS MAKE IT ABOUT CAREERS )

#7 ( FORGET CAREERS... ITS ABOUT PEAK PLAY )


LOL

[kennethgriffin]

Visual proof:

PEAK PLAY! PEAK PLAY! YAY

16 years DONT MATTER

its ALL ABOUT 2000-2002


well.... LETS RESTART THE ENTIRE 7 threads now!

we have to redo it and put in the shaq rule


SHAQ AND WILT GO #1 AND #2

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Rubio2Gasol]

Hakeem.

Shaq has never closed a game in his life lmao.Not even gonna bother arguing about Duncan, great player, respect him alot, but defensive and offensive skill levels just aren't comparable really.

Also even if Shaq carried Kobe, the point is he still had Kobe and Kobe was a top 5 arguably top 2 player in the league taking those years cumulatively.

Try having Vernon F***king Maxwell as your 2nd option on a thinner team than the Lakers had.

As I said, Haskeem should be top 5/

[kennethgriffin]

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Kobe 7 finals > Shaq 6 finals

Kobe 81 points > Shaq 61 points

Kobe 25/5/5 > Shaq 23/11/2

Kobe 10 all nba first teams > Shaq 8 all nba first teams

Kobe 9 all nba defensive first teams > shaq 0 all nba defensive first teams

Kobe (6) 60+ point games > Shaq (1) 60+ point games

Kobe (26) 50+ point games > Shaq (3) 50+ point games

Kobe 5 months averaging 40+ppg > Shaq 0 months averaging 40+ppg

Kobe Player of the decade by Sporting news > Shaq not

Kobe Player of the decade by Sports Illustrated > Shaq not

Kobe Player of the decade by TNT > Shaq not

Kobe 5th all time in points > Shaq 6th all time in points

Kobe 3rd all time in playoff scoring > Shaq 4th all time in playoff scoring

Kobe 2 championships without shaq > Shaq 1 championship without kobe

Kobe 0 times kicked off a team > Shaq 5 times kicked off a team

Kobe 4 straight 50 point games > Shaq 0 consecutive 50 point games

Kobe Bryant 62 points in 3 quarters > Shaqs career high of 61 in 4 qtrs

40 point games = Kobe > Shaq

30 point games = Kobe > Shaq

20 point games = Kobe > SHaq

Seasons averaging more than 30ppg = Kobe > Shaq

consecutive 30,35,40,45 point games = Kobe > Shaq

Championships without a legendary side kick = Kobe 2 > Shaq 0

Consecutive Allstar starting appearances = Kobe > Shaq

Olympic Gold medals = Kobe 2 > Shaq 1

Offensive skills = Kobe > Shaq

Defensive skills = Kobe > Shaq

play making skills = Kobe > Shaq

off hand skills = Kobe > Shaq

Fundimentals = Kobe > Shaq

Longevity = Kobe > Shaq

Work Ethic = Kobe > Shaq

Conditioning = Kobe > Shaq






Kobe Bryant 42 game winning shots > Shaq .... not even 10


Dec 27, 1999: Los Angeles 108, Dallas 106
Description: Game Winning FTs with 8 seconds left.
May 09, 1999: Los Angeles 101, Houston 100
Playoffs: Game Winning FTs with 5 seconds left.
Nov 16, 2000: Los Angeles 112, Sacramento 110
Description: Tying 3-pointer for OT; Jumper over Vlade Divac with 24 seconds left.
May 10, 2000: Los Angeles 97, Phoenix 96
Playoffs: Jumper over Jason Kidd with 2 seconds left.
Jun 14, 2000: Los Angeles 120, Indiana 118
Playoffs: Overtime; Offensive Rebound, Layup with 5 seconds left.

Feb 07, 2001: Los Angeles 85, Phoenix 83
Description: Jumper over Shawn Marion with 2 seconds left.
Feb 13, 2001: Los Angeles 113, New Jersey 110
Description: Overtime; Layup over Kenyon Martin with 4 seconds left.
Jan 02, 2002: Los Angeles 87, Denver 86
Description: Offensive Rebound, Jumper with 55 seconds left.
Feb 22, 2002: Los Angeles 96, Charlotte 94
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over George Lynch.
May 12, 2002: Los Angeles 87, San Antonio 85
Playoffs: Offensive Rebound, Layup over David Robinson with 5 seconds left.

Dec 06, 2002: Los Angeles 105, Dallas 103
Description: Jumper over Dirk Nowitzki with 8 seconds left.
Dec 22, 2002: Los Angeles 109, Toronto 107
Description: Overtime; Layup over Morris Peterson with 33 seconds left.
Apr 04, 2003: Los Angeles 102, Memphis 101
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over Shane Battier.
Apr 06, 2003: Los Angeles 115, Phoenix 113
Description: Overtime; Tying Jumper over Joe Johnson for OT; Jumper over Shawn Marion with 28 left.
Dec 19, 2003: Los Angeles 101, Denver 99
Description: Buzzer Beater; Jumper over Jon Barry.

Feb 17, 2004: Los Angeles 89, Portland 86
Description: Layup with 32 seconds left; Free Throw with 7 seconds left.
Mar 03, 2004: Los Angeles 96, Houston 93
Description: Jumper over Yao Ming with 32 seconds left.
Mar 21, 2004: Los Angeles 104, Milwaukee 103
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Keith Van Horn with 25 seconds left.
Apr 14, 2004: Los Angeles 105, Portland 104
Description: Buzzer Beater; Tying 3-pointer over Ruben Patterson for OT; 3-pointer over Theo Ratliff.
Apr 25, 2004: Los Angeles 92, Houston 88
Playoffs: Layup over Jim Jackson with 40 seconds left.

Mar 12, 2005: Los Angeles 117, Charlotte 116
Description: Jumper over Keith Bogans with 1 second left.
Nov 02, 2005: Los Angeles 99, Denver 97
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Eduardo Najera with 1 second left.
Dec 04, 2005: Los Angeles 99, Charlotte 98
Description: Game Winning FTs with 7 seconds left.
Dec 12, 2005: Los Angeles 109, Dallas 106
Description: 3-pointer over Adrian Griffin with 35 seconds left.
Jan 07, 2006: Los Angeles 112, L.A. Clippers 109
Description: Layup over Elton Brand with 11 seconds left.

Jan 12, 2006: Los Angeles 99, Cleveland 98
Description: Jumper over Lebron James with 8 seconds left.
Apr 30, 2006: Los Angeles 99, Phoenix 98
Playoffs: Buzzer Beater; Tying Layup over Boris Diaw for OT; Jumper over Raja Bell and Boris Diaw.
Jan 14, 2008: Los Angeles 123, Seatle 121
Description: Overtime; Jumper over Jeff Green with 4 seconds left.
May 21, 2008: Los Angeles 89, San Antonio 85
Playoffs: Jumper over Bruce Bowen with 23 seconds left.
Jan 09, 2009: Los Angeles 121, Indiana 119
Description: Jumper over Jarrett Jack with 3 seconds left.

Jan 13, 2009: Los Angeles 105, Houston 100
Description: 3-pointer over Shane Battier with 27 seconds left.
Dec 04, 2009: Los Angeles 108, Miami 107
Description: Buzzer Beater; 3-pointer over Dwayne Wade.
Dec 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106
Description: Buzzer Beater; Overtime; Jumper over Charlie Bell.
Jan 01, 2010: Los Angeles 109, Sacramento 108
Description: Buzzer Beater; 3-pointer.
Jan 13, 2010: Los Angeles 100, Dallas 95
Description: Jumper over Josh Howard with 28 seconds left.

Jan 31, 2010: Los Angeles 90, Boston 89
Description: Jumper over Ray Allen with 7 seconds left.
Feb 23, 2010: Los Angeles 99, Memphis 98
Description: 3-pointer over Rudy Gay with 4 seconds left.
Mar 09, 2010: Los Angeles 109, Toronto 107
Description: Jumper over Antoine Wright with 1 seconds left.
Feb 12, 2012: Los Angeles 94, Toronto 92
Description: Jumper over James Johnson with 4 seconds left.
Mar 09, 2012: Los Angeles 105, Minnesota 102
Description: Game Winning FTs with 16 seconds left.

Mar 27, 2012: Los Angeles 104, Golden State 101
Description: Jumper over Brandon Rush with 32 seconds left.
Mar 31, 2012: Los Angeles 88, New Orleans 85
Description: 3-pointer over Jarrett Jack with 20 seconds left.



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[Harison]

Hakeem, the best overall center ever, who won with the least help as well.

Top 10 career plays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCyU...layer_embedded

Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwons Greatest Hits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9zKg

[PyrrhusX]

Can I change my vote from Duncan to Shaq?
Kenneth showed me the error of my ways