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Old 05-21-2016, 11:18 AM   #16
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Default Re: LeBron has been the underdog 6/7 times in the finals

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where 95% of the bron stans are 15 year olds from foreign countries.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:26 AM   #17
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And 2014 was far from a toss up... SAS were considerable favorites

From what I could find

2012 Finals
http://www.ibtimes.com/nba-finals-pr...thunder-702485

2013 Finals
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/6...dds-heat-spurs

2014 Finals
http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/...-favorite-2014
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:27 AM   #18
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So you mean he chokes the 100% of the times he is the favorite? And that he would be 0 for 7 in Kobe's case and 0 for 6 in Michael's case?

That's harsh man




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Old 05-21-2016, 11:34 AM   #19
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Default Re: LeBron has been the underdog 6/7 times in the finals

Heat were favourites in 2011,2012 and 2013. He was only the underdog in 2007,2014 and 2015.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:36 AM   #20
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really surprised about 2013.. but other sites back it.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:36 AM   #21
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Heat were favourites in 2011,2012 and 2013. He was only the underdog in 2007,2014 and 2015 (and will be in 2016).

Thats factually false. Heat were not favorites in 2012.. but as just evidenced, they were in 2013.

Favorite twice, and two titles.. seems about right.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:44 AM   #22
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Thats factually false. Heat were not favorites in 2012.. but as just evidenced, they were in 2013.

Favorite twice, and two titles.. seems about right.
I don't really see how the Heat weren't the favourites though, a motivated veteran team aiming to silence the critics and erase the memory of the 2011 debacle against an up and coming team of young stars that had no final experience on their stars.
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:49 AM   #23
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the difference between rankings and vegas odds is that there are type of basketball being played right now. With vegas odds it's just how well someone perform that very particular night.
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Old 05-21-2016, 12:11 PM   #24
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I don't really see how the Heat weren't the favourites though, a motivated veteran team aiming to silence the critics and erase the memory of the 2011 debacle against an up and coming team of young stars that had no final experience on their stars.

Were you a fan at the time? The Thunder weren't just the betting favorites, journalists and what not and the general consensus had them as well.

How could you not? They had the better record, HCA, just destroyed a tougher conference, the KD/RW/Harden/Ibaka core, backdoor sweeped the Spurs who were on an 18-0 winning streak, swept the defending champions, and blitzed the Lakers in five games who were still a powerhouse around the time, just one year off their back to back titles.

Its easy to see why they were:




Every Casino and betting site pinned them favorites. They just were.


ELO Rating did, too. Thunder had an estimated 67% winning chance, and ended up one of 18 teams in history to lose with a favorable ELO rating.
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Old 05-21-2016, 12:34 PM   #25
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:41 PM   #26
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Default Re: LeBron has been the underdog 6/7 times in the finals

He was the underdog in 07 and 15.
12 is a toss up, people only thought Thunder would win cause Lebron was a known chocker because of 11.
He was the favorite in 2011, 13 and 14.
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:48 PM   #27
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Default Re: LeBron has been the underdog 6/7 times in the finals

His team was the underdog in 2007, 2012, and 2015.

The Heat were heavily favored against the Mavs. After their Finals loss against the Mavs, people thought that the the Heat would fall short again against the Thunder, especially after losing the first game.

2013 and 2014 were toss-ups.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:00 PM   #28
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He was the underdog in 07 and 15.
12 is a toss up, people only thought Thunder would win cause Lebron was a known chocker because of 11.
He was the favorite in 2011, 13 and 14.

Making up shit is fun isnt it lol

He was factually the underdog in 2012 and 2014, nothing you say changes that, unless you post Vegas' lines, or whatever Casino's or betting sites line that proves otherwise.

I might even do with a simple Prediction by some Expert Crew. Try
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:06 PM   #29
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MJ was favorite in all 6/6 finals appearances

False.

1998 the Bulls were the clear underdogs.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:19 PM   #30
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