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Old 05-19-2019, 04:30 PM   #76
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That rule has been in place for 40 years. If you still can't get over that's a you problem.
Curry was an 18 ppg player for 3 years (2010-2012) - but that's because he only attempted 4.7 three-pointers per game

Starting in 2013, his attempts increased to 7.7, along with his ppg to 23... In 2016, his attempts soared to 11.2, along with his ppg to 30

So Curry was nothing until he started shooting a ton of threes, which coincided with the entire LEAGUE adopting new 3-pt strategy - this new strategy was first embraced by Popogoat when he made Lebron tap out (give up) in 2014

Again, I just don't think it's "greatness" to take advantage of a loophole that awards an extra point (50%) for a 24-footer vs a 23-footer..

being the best at taking advantage of this loophole isn't "great" - it's just luck that he came along when it mattered.. if he came along in 1989, he'd be Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:32 PM   #77
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:32 PM   #78
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:41 PM   #79
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Curry was an 18 ppg player for 3 years (2010-2012) - but that's because he only attempted 4.7 three-pointers per game

Starting in 2013, his attempts increased to 7.7, along with his ppg to 23... In 2016, his attempts soared to 11.2, along with his ppg to 30





Just when i think you cant possibly post anything dumber you manage to surpass yourself.

In 2011/12 Monte Ellis was traded (he took 20 shots per game the previous season) and Steph was unleashed. It isnt that complicated.

Just because you can't get over it after 40 years doesnt make it a loophole. It's a rule.

FYI Mark Price attempted 5 3s a game in 1989/90. I think Steph would have been fine.
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:42 PM   #80
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It's interesting this critique is being brought up right now. If the current series with the Trail Blazers shows anything it isn't that the Warriors are better shooters than the Trail Blazers, what it shows is that the Warriors are terrific basketball players with amazing all-around basketball skills.

Just look at what's on display:

The Curry-Green pick and roll - Does anyone else feel this might become an iconic duo for the pick and roll similar to Stockton-Malone?

Team passing and ball movement that is arguably as good as we've ever seen.

Suffocating defense.

Iguodala putting on a clinic on how to strip a ball.

Who is disappointed in the basketball skills on display? Oh I forgot 3ball doesn't watch games.
There's levels to this shit

The reason pnr's weren't the staple of offenses back then was because teams didn't have the strategy or practiced shooters to drive-and-kick for 3-pointers like today's game - and drive-and-kick for 2-pointers wasn't worth it (a less efficient/preferable play than posting up)

But Stockton/Malone were SO good at the pnr and had such amazing chemistry that the Jazz were the only team that used pnr as their primary offense... the efficiency of their pnr rivaled today's teams WITHOUT today's primary weapon of kicking out for threes

So don't compare Stockton/Malone pnr to Curry/Dray.. that's laughable... And imagine if Stockton/Malone had today's 3-pt shooting and strategy surrounding them.. .. yikes
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:43 PM   #81
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:44 PM   #82
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Just when i think you cant possibly post anything dumber you manage to surpass yourself.

In 2011/12 Monte Ellis was traded (he took 20 shots per game the previous season) and Steph was unleashed. It isnt that complicated.
Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:46 PM   #83
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Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer
Curry’s 3’s are the equivalent of shooting 60% + from midrange
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:48 PM   #84
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Monta has nothing to do with it

As curry's 3-point attempts reached a modern level, his ppg reached elite levels

Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer



Curry was only attempting 11.4 shots per game in 2011/12. The following season, after the trade, he took 17.8.

But i am sure the trade had nothing to do with it.
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:52 PM   #85
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Curry was only attempting 11.4 shots per game in 2011/12. The following season, after the trade, he took 17.8.

But i am sure the trade had nothing to do with it.
Ur kind of lying to not lose this argument

Curry was hurt in 2012 and his shot attempts were down

In 2010 and 2011, he attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:54 PM   #86
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Ur kind of lying to not lose this argument

Curry was hurt in 2012 and his shot attempts were down

In 2010 and 2011, he attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts
Stfu. You can’t penalize someone for taking more shots and making them
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:54 PM   #87
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Without a modern level of three attempts and, he's an 18 ppg scorer


Math is obviously not your strong suit.

Curry made 9.2 shots from the field this season. If we only give him 2 points for those (even though over half of them were 3s) that is 18.4.

He also averaged 3.8 made foul shots per game. 18.4 + 3.8 = 22.2.

But of course 3s do count no matter how much you cry about it.






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Old 05-19-2019, 05:00 PM   #88
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Basketball was created to be a team sport of passing, decision making, and technical ability (shooting the ball in the hoop).

only 3ball would say shooting doesnt count.

...looking for harlem globetrotter esque circus more than an exhibition of skill and iq.
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:00 PM   #89
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Math is obviously not your strong suit.

Curry made 9.2 shots from the field this season. If we only give him 2 points for those (even though over half of them were 3s) that is 18.4.

He also averaged 3.8 made foul shots per game. 18.4 + 3.8 = 22.2.

But of course 3s do count no matter how much you cry about it.






In 2010 and 2011, Curry was healthy and attempted 14.3 shots, so the increase to 17.8 in 2013 is entirely 3-pointers

Sorry bud.. curry is an 18 ppg player without a modern level of 3-pt attempts
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:02 PM   #90
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welcome to every 3ball thread.

Thread making business doesn't seem to be going to well for you lately 3ball, dipping lower and lower each thread next you'll argue today's players have the advantage of a more round ball......any how, as it pertains to one Stephen Curry:

Does he benefit from the 3 era? sure he does.

Does he shoot a ton of open ones? sure he does.

is he a system player? Out of your damn mind.

What Steph is? Steph's a game changer. Point blank period. His range and threat of shooting a confident shot anywhere across half court he may catch it puts constant pressure on defenses in a different way than we've ever seen. Yeah he's a bit on the soft side and he doesn't play defense so well but every great has weaknesses. Steph works almost non stop at times generating and regenerating looks for himself that he doesn't even take at every chance. It's honestly no different than shooters of the past exhausting possessions and hundreds of screens to get looks without the ball. He's just doing it from previously unimaginable places on the floor. The scariest thing about Steph is despite his greatness, he's quite measured and hasn't ever been completely cut loose like we've seen other offensive stars go off script for an entire game. Steph is able to do this within restrictions of team ball. That is why the Warrirors are so great and why Steph hasn't even shown his full potential as an offensive player. And all this as a person who's not much of a fan.

3ball is only one person, but he makes Jordan fans look handicapped.

The guy is sitting here putting an asterisk on a shot...that was used in the Jordan era. Before then even

Good post by the way. You're spot on.
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