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Resident Netsfan
Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Clippers:
Trade: Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Grant Hill and 2013 1st round pick
Receive: Kevin Love, Alexey Shved, Chase Budinger
T-Wolves:
Trade: Kevin Love, Alexey Shved, Chase Budinger
Receive: Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Grant Hill and 2013 1st round pick
The trade proposal has been approved by ESPN Trade Machine:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cw7exdl
Why would the Clippers do this:
They get a better PF, someone who keeps improving his game since his rookie season. With Kevon Love, Chris Paul has much higher chance to resign. Since Clippers are a winning team right now, Kevin Love sure will sign an extension too. Alexey Shved is another good addition, he is a combo guard that can play alongside with Paul at 2 while running the point at 1. If they were to lose Bledsoe in summer, the Clippers still have someone to play backup PG. Chase Budinger can be a very good backup SF for them too, if everything goes out well.
Why would the Wolves do this:
Sure they give up Kevin Love for a worse PF, but Blake Griffin is still decent at this point and more importantly, guaranteed to stay for the next few years. The major concern is whether Kevin Love will resign or not, if he keeps declining contract it may be better to just send him away for someone else rather than waiting for some good news in summer. Jamal Crawford can be a good starting SG for them, considering it as a good replacement for Brandon Roy who was supposed to be playing SG. They can also make use of the draft picks.
What do you think? Id say its a good trade for both parties.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Why would the Clips give up BG AND Crawford AND a 1st round pick and only get one stud player in return
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Don't see why either teams would do this
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Resident Netsfan
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Why would the Clips give up BG AND Crawford AND a 1st round pick and only get one stud player in return
Shved getting underrated, hes as good as Jamal Crawford if not even better right now, not mentioning your 1st round pick will not be in lottery.
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by The Nets
Shved getting underrated, hes as good as Jamal Crawford if not even better right now.
Yeh...but no hes not, Jamal is going off for the Clippers right now
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Canned
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Minny dont want no mulattos
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Resident Netsfan
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by BG32-KD35
Yeh...but no hes not, Jamal is going off for the Clippers right now
Jamal Crawford is shooting below 40% during the past 10 games for the Clippers, perhaps tonight's game turns the table a bit but still you cant deny he aint the same player he was early in the season. Anyway, even if hes somewhat better than Shved the gap can be easily covered with Kevin Love.
Overall, Kevin Love + Alexey Shved >= Blake Griffin + Jamal Crawford, thats why you need to throw in a draft pick.
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Yeh but Clippers would be losing their main draw aswell
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Resident Netsfan
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by BG32-KD35
Yeh but Clippers would be losing their main draw aswell
But the point is, dont you want your team to get better? If so, this trade will make it happen. Its all owing to Kevin Love not resigning with the Wolves so far, otherwise they wouldnt trade a better PF for yours.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
i just feel like if you're going to trade BG you either do it for a proven veteran all star, or a package of on good/great player, another borderline all star, and a proven role player.
it's not worth the risk to just trade for another PF who doesn't play much defense.
BG for Horford + Jsmoove + Korver IMO would be a good trade for the Clippers as an example of the type of package i think they could get for BG
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Doomguy
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
The Clippers are the last team in the league that should be thinking about making trades. Everything is working right and fitting into place properly. Love is the most overrated player in the league.
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Resident Netsfan
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
i just feel like if you're going to trade BG you either do it for a proven veteran all star, or a package of on good/great player, another borderline all star, and a proven role player.
it's not worth the risk to just trade for another PF who doesn't play much defense.
BG for Horford + Jsmoove + Korver IMO would be a good trade for the Clippers as an example of the type of package i think they could get for BG
Well right now Kevin Love is a better PF than Blake Griffin, you know its true. The gap will be even greater in the next few years. Moreover, Blake Griffin keeps declining each season, his trade value will only drop with time so you dont want to wait for too long. one or two seasons later you probably only get players of David West's or even Carlos Boozer's caliber for him.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by The Nets
Well right now Kevin Love is a better PF than Blake Griffin, you know its true. The gap will be even greater in the next few years. Moreover, Blake Griffin keeps declining each season, his trade value will only drop with time so you dont want to wait for too long. one or two seasons later you probably only get players of David West's or even Carlos Boozer's caliber for him.
How is Love better this year? Better rebounder sure but Griffin is scoring more efficiently, defending SIGNIFICANTLY better, assisting more and having a bigger ALL AROUND impact. Love's PPG is down 6 this year from last year and he's shooting like 25 percent from deep. Now that defenses have finally started game planning for him he's not doing as much.
Griffin has far more upside too.
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Learning to shoot layups
Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
Originally Posted by The Nets
But the point is, dont you want your team to get better? If so, this trade will make it happen. Its all owing to Kevin Love not resigning with the Wolves so far, otherwise they wouldnt trade a better PF for yours.
Of course I do, but that trade wont make them better. Losing the scoring of Crawford alone will make them worse.
But then losing Griffin whos working in the system for Love who is putting up inflated stats makes no sense
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Re: Trade Scenario: LA Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves
the clippers get better by giving up two of their 5 best players and destroying chemistry? of course!
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