Question for non-religious types...(most of us I think)

[-playmaker-]

so Don, where to you think the name "Jesus Christ" came from?

if there was never a real human with that name? who is responsible for creating it? and why was that name chosen, if there was no human with that name?

it would seem likely to me, that the name was at least inspired by a real human's name...

[Batz]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[-playmaker-]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

so old...and long...and has nothing to do with a this topic...

this isn't a religious debate, this is a historical debate...

(there is a zeitgeist 2 btw if you weren't aware)

[PistolPete]

but Jesus the son of god as the bible describes him is an imaginary deity based on pagan sun worship.

uhh what?

[DonDadda59]

so Don, where to you think the name "Jesus Christ" came from?

The name Jesus is a transcription of the Jewish name Yeshua.

[QUOTE][B]Yeshua, spelled יֵשׁוּעַ (Yē

[Jasper]

Anything written of a man after his death is just that scripture.

I do not believe in god , but I do believe there was Jesus , because he was not mythical, he was a legit person.

It is up to the masses and individual to determine if you want to worship to a dead human being , or a god that is not proven to be a being.

Western culture seems to believe that god takes on a human quality , but in ancient times could they have looked upon a god as an alien from another universe , solar system , or planet ?
no proven facts

[Sarcastic]

No, Jesus as a historical figure is fictional as well.

[jbot]

There may have actually been a man named Jesus Christ who walked the earth, but Jesus the son of god as the bible describes him is an imaginary deity based on pagan sun worship.

i agree.

[-playmaker-]

The name Jesus is a transcription of the Jewish name Yeshua.



Christ(Christus/Chrestos), from the Greek Kristos isn't a 'name' it's a title which means the anointed one.



And like I said before, other deities have had that cognomen/title:



Hope that cleared things up for you

not really...you cleared up that the name "Jesus" came from the hebrew name Yeshua...

I meant more, how did the men that wrote the Bible come up with the name "Jesus" as the son of God?...not the origin of the name "Jesus"...

does it not seem likely that it may have come from an actual man named "Jesus Christ"?

or do you think they just drew names out of a hat?

[Big_Dogg]

Balance of probability suggests that Jesus existed around that time in that area,l but as others have mentioned, it's the supposed deeds of this man, his alleged divinity and resurrection are really what is in question.

[-playmaker-]

Balance of probability suggests that Jesus existed around that time in that area,l but as others have mentioned, it's the supposed deeds of this man, [COLOR="Red"]his alleged divinity and resurrection are really what is in question[/COLOR].

not in this thread they aren't...

this is for "non-religious" types to debate...we have already come to the conclusion there was no man born from a virgin who is the "literal" son of God...

[raiderfan19]

not really...you cleared up that the name "Jesus" came from the hebrew name Yeshua...

I meant more, how did the men that wrote the Bible come up with the name "Jesus" as the son of God?...not the origin of the name "Jesus"...

does it not seem likely that it may have come from an actual man named "Jesus Christ"?

or do you think they just drew names out of a hat?

I am a devout Christian but Ill leave my personal religious views out of this for now. As for your question, Christ is a title, meaning the annointed one or messiah depending on how you are translating it.

[-playmaker-]

I am a devout Christian but Ill leave my personal religious views out of this for now. As for your question, Christ is a title, meaning the annointed one or messiah depending on how you are translating it.

well yeah...but I have to assume that is because of "Jesus" right?

I mean, are you telling me that is what the meaning of that name was BEFORE Christ was born?

If that is the case then I could change my views on this one...

[knobs]

I mean, are you telling me that is what the meaning of that name was BEFORE Christ was born?

it was. it's the english translation for a hebrew term with the same meaning, which was certainly around prior to heyarnold's birth.

[DonDadda59]

not really...you cleared up that the name "Jesus" came from the hebrew name Yeshua...

I meant more, how did the men that wrote the Bible come up with the name "Jesus" as the son of God?...not the origin of the name "Jesus"...

They got the name from the same place they got the name Hercules, or Zeus, or Mithra, or Santa Claus. The only difference is that Yeshua was a common name for Jewish males during the second period, so it would be like us getting together to write a script about a boxer and blatantly plagiarizing Rocky but changing the main character's name to something generic/common like James.

does it not seem likely that it may have come from an actual man named "Jesus Christ"?

or do you think they just drew names out of a hat?

What don't you understand about 'Christ' not being a name, but a title? I broke this down in the simplest terms for you. Chirst=Khristos=the annointed one. The title didn't originate with Yeshua, I even showed you an example of a deity with the title 'Christus/Christ' who predates Jesus by a few centuries. Hell, even in the OT, Cyrus, who ended the Babylonian captivity, is called God's annointed one in Isaiah. Cyrus, who wasn't even a Jew, who lived hundreds of years before Jesus was bestowed the TITLE.

[QUOTE][I]Thus says the LORD, your redeemer, . . . "I am the LORD, . . . who confirms the word of His servant, and performs the counsel of His messengers; who says to Jerusalem,