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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    THOSE are very high quality pictures... We need that quality for Jordan's kiss-the-rim alley oop.

    There's no way Jordan jumped higher than those guys though, and none of them have 48" verticals.


    This guy touched 13 feet and even he doesn't have a 48" vertical (6'8")


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    Quote Originally Posted by abuC
    There's no way Jordan jumped higher than those guys though, and none of them have 48" verticals.


    This guy touched 13 feet and even he doesn't have a 48" vertical (6'8")

    how do you know he doesn't have a 48" vertical?.. Do you know him personally?

    secondly, lol at taking pictures of the outdoor rims - in a solid percentage of those outdoor contests, the rim is between 1 and 5 inches lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    first of all, how do you know he doesn't have a 48" vertical?

    secondly, lol at taking pictures of the outdoor rims - in a solid percentage of those outdoor contests, the rim is between 1 and 5 inches lower.




    Video of him touching 13 feet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNZic5_o4RI

    Jordan is 2" shorter than him, there's no video that exists of Jordan getting as high as this guy. So, either you believe this man has a 49-52" vertical (which is insane) or you believe Jordan jumps higher than him, there's not much room for anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abuC
    Video of him touching 13 feet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNZic5_o4RI

    Jordan is 2" shorter than him, there's no video that exists of Jordan getting as high as this guy. So, either you believe this man has a 49-52" vertical (which is insane) or you believe Jordan jumps higher than him, there's not much room for anything else.
    why is this so hard to understand?

    if he can touch 13 feet high, than he has a 48"+ vertical!!

    it's simple math.... why is it so hard to understand?

    why is it so hard to accept that some guys have 48"+ verticals?

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    So can we just all agree that Lebron can jump pretty high

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    why is this so hard to understand?

    if he can touch 13 feet high, than he has a 48"+ vertical!!

    it's simple math.... why is it so hard to understand?

    why is it so hard to accept that some guys have 48"+ verticals?

    Just show us a quality picture, and no one will doubt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oarabbus
    Just show us a quality picture, and no one will doubt you.


    my man... ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    why is this so hard to understand?

    if he can touch 13 feet high, than he has a 48"+ vertical!!

    it's simple math.... why is it so hard to understand?

    why is it so hard to accept that some guys have 48"+ verticals?

    You're under the assumption everyone has the same reach, his nickname is stretch which implies he has long arms.

    Vyacheslav Kravtsov touched 12'4" during the 09 combine, he's 6'8" in shoes and his max vertical was 37". It would take a 45" vertical for him to touch 13 feet.

    A 48"+ vertical is incredibly rare, if Jordan had a 48" vertical then you have to believe James White and Gerald Green were in the 50-54" range, and they arent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    why is this so hard to understand?

    if he can touch 13 feet high, than he has a 48"+ vertical!!

    it's simple math.... why is it so hard to understand?

    why is it so hard to accept that some guys have 48"+ verticals?
    but who was wingspan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abuC
    You're under the assumption everyone has the same reach, his nickname is stretch which implies he has long arms.

    Vyacheslav Kravtsov touched 12'4" during the 09 combine, he's 6'8" in shoes and his max vertical was 37". It would take a 45" vertical for him to touch 13 feet.

    A 48"+ vertical is incredibly rare, if Jordan had a 48" vertical then you have to believe James White and Gerald Green were in the 50-54" range, and they arent.
    This. People's wingspans, arm/hand length, location of arms on torso, etc, all factor into this. It's not as simple as "13 ft = 48" vert"










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    Quote Originally Posted by abuC
    You're under the assumption everyone has the same reach, his nickname is stretch which implies he has long arms.

    Vyacheslav Kravtsov touched 12'4" during the 09 combine, he's 6'8" in shoes and his max vertical was 37". It would take a 45" vertical for him to touch 13 feet.

    A 48"+ vertical is incredibly rare, if Jordan had a 48" vertical then you have to believe James White and Gerald Green were in the 50-54" range, and they arent.
    See, back in the day your disbelief of such high vertical measurements would be correct, because the only thing that was measured was a "standing" vert, which is a one-step vertical leap off two feet.

    But since the introduction of the "max vert", where players can jump any way they want (they have the option of using a run-up before jumping and their choice of jumping off one or two legs) - this allows for higher vertical leap measurements... So why haven't we seen many 44"+ leaps at a combine??... There are a few reasons - firstly, most guys can't hit their head on the rim, so they wouldn't have a 44+ inch vertical anyway... Secondly, there actually HAVE been a few 44-inch+ leaps at the combine.

    But the main reason for lower jumps recorded during the testing is that guys usually jump higher in games than when doing the test on the contraption, either because they are more uncomfortable, tentative, and/or embarrassed testing their leaping ability on a contraption, or because they just aren't taking it seriously anyway and focusing on playing instead.

    Some guys actually practice the vertical leap test so they can look good at the combine - consequently, there are frequently instances where players have good test scores (Cody Zeller) that are better than other guys who really jump higher - this is common.

    But regardless - the math is what it is - when Gerald Green gets his head well over the rim as a 6'8" player, he is executing a sub-48 inch "MAX" vertical leap - that's just the math of it..

    When 6'8" Lebron has the top of his head reach the 10-foot rim, that is a 40-inch max vertical... period... what am i missing here?... nothing, right?... so when we see Lebron with his MOUTH by the rim (so his head has reached about 10'6"), that is him doing a 45-46 inch MAX vertical (for Lebron, the "max" part is important because he needs the run-up and he needs to take off one leg... no standing verts for Lebron).

    In Jordan's case, we've heard about him having a 48" vertical for a while, which means that since it was measured back in the day, it was a STANDING vertical measurement - and as the previously-posted picture and clip show, he actually does execute a standing vertical jump, where his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim, so there is no room for camera deception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    See, back in the day your disbelief of such high vertical measurements would be correct, because the only thing that was measured was a "standing" vert, which is a one-step vertical leap off two feet.

    But since the introduction of the "max vert", where players can jump any way they want (they have the option of using a run-up before jumping and their choice of jumping off one or two legs) - this allows for higher vertical leap measurements... So why haven't we seen many 44"+ leaps at a combine??... There are a few reasons - firstly, most guys can't hit their head on the rim, so they wouldn't have a 44+ inch vertical anyway... Secondly, there actually HAVE been a few 44-inch+ leaps at the combine.

    But the main reason for lower jumps recorded during the testing is that guys usually jump higher in games than when doing the test on the contraption, either because they are more uncomfortable, tentative, and/or embarrassed testing their leaping ability on a contraption, or because they just aren't taking it seriously anyway and focusing on playing instead.

    Some guys actually practice the vertical leap test so they can look good at the combine - consequently, there are frequently instances where players have good test scores (Cody Zeller) that are better than other guys who really jump higher - this is common.

    But regardless - the math is what it is - when Gerald Green gets his head well over the rim as a 6'8" player, he is executing a sub-48 inch "MAX" vertical leap - that's just the math of it..

    When 6'8" Lebron has the top of his head reach the 10-foot rim, that is a 40-inch max vertical... period... what am i missing here?... nothing, right?... so when we see Lebron with his MOUTH by the rim (so his head has reached about 10'6"), that is him doing a 45-46 inch MAX vertical (for Lebron, the "max" part is important because he needs the run-up and he needs to take off one leg... no standing verts for Lebron).

    In Jordan's case, we've heard about him having a 48" vertical for a while, which means that since it was measured back in the day, it was a STANDING vertical measurement - and as the previously-posted picture and clip show, he actually does execute a standing vertical jump, where his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim, so there is no room for camera deception.
    Stop being stupid.

    This 48 stuff is just what a bunch of internet people did to get hits on sites. You'll find a million random vertical figures for nba players on random sites.

    Show me ONE respectable publication or site that lists him as having anything CLOSE to 48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer
    Stop being stupid.

    This 48 stuff is just what a bunch of internet people did to get hits on sites. You'll find a million random vertical figures for nba players on random sites.

    Show me ONE respectable publication or site that lists him as having anything CLOSE to 48.

    You'll never find it or see it, but oh, you will sure hear about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    See, back in the day your disbelief of such high vertical measurements would be correct, because the only thing that was measured was a "standing" vert, which is a one-step vertical leap off two feet.

    But since the introduction of the "max vert", where players can jump any way they want (they have the option of using a run-up before jumping and their choice of jumping off one or two legs) - this allows for higher vertical leap measurements... So why haven't we seen many 44"+ leaps at a combine??... There are a few reasons - firstly, most guys can't hit their head on the rim, so they wouldn't have a 44+ inch vertical anyway... Secondly, there actually HAVE been a few 44-inch+ leaps at the combine.

    But the main reason for lower jumps recorded during the testing is that guys usually jump higher in games than when doing the test on the contraption, either because they are more uncomfortable, tentative, and/or embarrassed testing their leaping ability on a contraption, or because they just aren't taking it seriously anyway and focusing on playing instead.

    Some guys actually practice the vertical leap test so they can look good at the combine - consequently, there are frequently instances where players have good test scores (Cody Zeller) that are better than other guys who really jump higher - this is common.

    But regardless - the math is what it is - when Gerald Green gets his head well over the rim as a 6'8" player, he is executing a sub-48 inch "MAX" vertical leap - that's just the math of it..

    When 6'8" Lebron has the top of his head reach the 10-foot rim, that is a 40-inch max vertical... period... what am i missing here?... nothing, right?... so when we see Lebron with his MOUTH by the rim (so his head has reached about 10'6"), that is him doing a 45-46 inch MAX vertical (for Lebron, the "max" part is important because he needs the run-up and he needs to take off one leg... no standing verts for Lebron).

    In Jordan's case, we've heard about him having a 48" vertical for a while, which means that since it was measured back in the day, it was a STANDING vertical measurement - and as the previously-posted picture and clip show, he actually does execute a standing vertical jump, where his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim, so there is no room for camera deception.

    That's a ton of typing and not a single picture of Mike getting 48+ off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oarabbus
    You'll never find it or see it, but oh, you will sure hear about it.
    so many people say it, so it had to come from somewhere.... and since we have visual proof, i most definitely believe it.

    his mouth is close enough to kiss the rim, so there can't be any camera deception...

    with his mouth at rim-level, the top of his head is about 6 inches over the rim... so if i subtract 10 feet 6 inches from 6 feet 6 inches, that's 48 inches.
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