Round 1, Mavs-Hornets game 2, Tue 7pm ET

[FabCasablancas]

So Avery is the GM of this team?

You are talking about 2 different issues.. right now... under Avery... we are only seeing Dirk at about 30% of his maximum capabilities..

if Dirk had a decent coach it would put him back up to about 60% of his capabilities..

if he Dirk the ideal team around him.. you'd see 100%

[SoCalMike]

You are talking about 2 different issues.. right now... under Avery... we are only seeing Dirk at about 30% of his maximum capabilities..

if Dirk had a decent coach it would put him back up to about 60% of his capabilities..

if he Dirk the ideal team around him.. you'd see 100%

No, I am talking about why the Mavs are not a title contending team and why it is not all Avery Johnson's fault that you keep contending, ad nauseum. You are not doing the proper analysis when you make your dumbass statements that you constantly do. You need to look at the Mavs wholistically and yet you do not.

[FabCasablancas]

YES, it IS all Avery's fault. Because the ONLY good things about this Mavs team under Avery's reign were caused by others -- Don Nelson and Dirk.

Nellie has an infrastructure all around Avery that allowed him to basically be an auto pilot.. but the more he took over.. the more he screwed Dikr up.. the more he screwed the team up.. the more he screwed the roster up.. the more coaches learned that Avery was a terrible coach that couldn't adjust and was completely predictable..

This is why... the longer Nellie is gone the worse it's going to get.. who knows how bad it can or will get.. but ALL the good you saw was due to others.. it was ALL Avery's fault.

Is it his fault that the Mavs aren't a dominant team? No.. but they should be an elite team without Avery's input.. because everything was already in place.. he even had an assistant in del Harris that knew all Nellie's moves because nellie taught them to him.. Avery just had to NOT screw it up.. but there's no off position for the idiot switch..

[SoCalMike]

OMG, I am dealing with a nut... ok, no sense discussing this with you. Man.....

[Admiral]

i don't really want to read through 272 responses...but does anyone have a video of that RIDICULOUS assist to tyson chandler for the alley-oop during tonight's game? i saw a quick re-cap clip of it and i really would like to see it again...

[FabCasablancas]

OMG, I am dealing with a nut... ok, no sense discussing this with you. Man.....

It's the truth.. avery inherited a 60 win team that Nellie built for 6 years.. he had an assistant and system in place that knew Nellie as well as anyone and saved Avery's a$$ the whole time.. but Avery is so stupid he even got rid of that assistant because he blamed the losing on the old system when it was the old system saving his ass.. he also rode dirk until his back broke.. I've never seen a coahc ride a player into the ground like Avery did dirk..

I always saw Avery like the little midget riding Dirk..


http://www.broadcastyoutube.com/watch?v=dBPZkptvCFs



You just have no clue what you are talking about..

[High Potential]

Avery is not to blame for the team being so poor. You have two future HOFers and another allstar, Howard. The only problem is, all three of them choke when it matters most. Dirk is one of the clutchest players when it comes to the regular season but the playoffs is an entirely different thing for the guy. Howard is even more of a choker. And J-Kidd, while great, is too old. You have a strong bench with Terry, Stackhouse and Bass. The only thing to blame is your stars.

[FabCasablancas]

You're wrong.. You can't blame the players when the coach is running a system completely counter to their abilities..

Avery only knows one system Popovich's.. and he doesn't even know that. But he's trying to shoe horn Dirk and kidd into this system and style of play that wastes their talents.

Then you have the fact that Avery doesn't know how coach defense and can't adjust to anything..

It takes Avery a game or 2 to adjust to the opposing moves in the playoffs that a normal coach would make an adjustment to mid-quarter. No joke.

He also can't think aobut more than one thing at a time.. he sees one problem then completley overracts to it creating all kind sof other problems because he's trying to figure out the first problem.. it's a compelte mess.. It is truly like what would happen to a fan who was amde a head coach.. the only talent Avery has is his abilty to blame others to protect his own butt. Look what he did to Kidd right off the bat.. now everyone thinks Kidd sucks like they do Dirk.. he's even got Kidd believing it.. he's a little weasel..

[BryantGasol89]

Like I said, CP3 gonna have another big game, and he duly delivered. Hornets in complete control, the Mavs will win one game at home, Hornets will wrap it up afterwards.

[Doomsday Dallas]

This thread should end...

The only chance the MAVS hav now is to win in game 7.

Win One Game in Dallas... just win one...

Maybe you can get lucky and beat them in Game 5....
maybe...

Bring it back to Dallas... and win that game.

New Orleans would kill them in Game 7.

This series is over.

New Orleans will probably win in 5... if not 4.

The Mavs suck... I hope thay can make a great freee agent signing in 2010.
to get them back to a high level.

See you guys next season.

[High Potential]

You're wrong.. You can't blame the players when the coach is running a system completely counter to their abilities..

Avery only knows one system Popovich's.. and he doesn't even know that. But he's trying to shoe horn Dirk and kidd into this system and style of play that wastes their talents.

Then you have the fact that Avery doesn't know how coach defense and can't adjust to anything..

It takes Avery a game or 2 to adjust to the opposing moves in the playoffs that a normal coach would make an adjustment to mid-quarter. No joke.

He also can't think aobut more than one thing at a time.. he sees one problem then completley overracts to it creating all kind sof other problems because he's trying to figure out the first problem.. it's a compelte mess.. It is truly like what would happen to a fan who was amde a head coach.. the only talent Avery has is his abilty to blame others to protect his own butt. Look what he did to Kidd right off the bat.. now everyone thinks Kidd sucks like they do Dirk.. he's even got Kidd believing it.. he's a little weasel..

Give an example how he limits Kidd and Dirk. And what excuse do you have for Howard's choking? Avery doesn't make him shoot 18%. Give examples of Avery's bad coaching, it just seems like you're scapegoating.

[R.I.P.]

Bass, Terry, Dirk 17-24
Stack, Howard, Kidd 10-30 Shoot it some more.

That boxscore shows who can shoot and who really can

[liverandonions]

Stackhouse, Juwan, Kidd, and Eddie Jones would make for a GREAT NBA JAM team in 1995!

[FabCasablancas]

Give an example how he limits Kidd and Dirk. And what excuse do you have for Howard's choking? Avery doesn't make him shoot 18%. Give examples of Avery's bad coaching, it just seems like you're scapegoating.

Howard should have never been used as a key scorer.. he was always supposed to be a role player. He doesn't have the capability to be a primary scorer. and that's avery's error not seeing that.

Kidd should be used to post up much more. and Dirk should be used to spread the floor for Kidd and Kidd posting will open Dirk for threes.. If Avery puts the right kind of players around Dirk -- another bigger player with a perimeter hsot. But Avery won't do that. Avery needs to play the team at a higher tempo to help the teams post game because they don't have a post player other than Dirk.. this would help Kidd and Dirk on the post..

Also.. Avery playing Terry so much Kills Kidd's postgame because it gives a place to hide Chris Paul. And avery could use Dirk much more effectively by ruinning hi m off scvreens to get more jumpers.. all Avery does is run ISO after ISO and then wonders why the offense is so stagnant. also.. if he rode Dirk more it would demoralize the opponents.. for some reaosn Avery doesn't even use Dirk much.. Dirk could have had 30 points in the first half in this game if Avery wanted to.. but for some unknown reason he won't do it.. I have my guesses why he does though...

[Showtime]