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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    30% of BRI is 1.2 billion. You think a new league would be worse than NHL?

    You're absolutely clueless.
    Sounds like you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    With what players? No one is tuning in if Sasha Vujacic is the best the NBA has to offer.
    If NCAA can crush the nba then NBA with NCAA talent can crush the new form league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcastic
    There are 1200 billionaires on the planet. There are 450 NBA quality players on the planet.

    It would be much easier to replace the owners than it would be to replace the players. Simple math tells us so.
    LOL what a dumbass. There are more people who can play basketball than billionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagelred
    Wow, there's alot of really small thinkers in this thread.

    You really think it would be that hard to start a new league? You create an organizing body of really smart business types to make it happen. The players don't run the league. They hire smart people to do it for them.

    You don't think investors would line up to help this new league get on its feet?


    They already have the most imporant part of a league...THE PLAYERS....essentially THE CONTENT. Some TV deals, arena deals, sponsorships, investors....it'll take work and take a few years to work out the kinks, but ultimately better for players in long run.


    Think differently.
    yeah coz by renaming owners to investors, they would now have different mindset. Those investors would now be willing to take losses unlike the owners. LOL owners and investors are just the same so if the owners locked out the players coz their investment arent growing, investors too would do the same. If the players want to retain what they earn then good luck finding an investor.

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    I can't believe people think the players can just start up their own league as if it's as easy as registering a domain name and hiring a court.

    Think about it this way - you'd make more money if you owned wherever you work right now, so tomorrow you should quit your job and start up a business in your line of work where you're the owner. I mean, it's not that hard is it? Of course it's hard and the players simply don't have the resources, and as much as they want more money from the owners most wouldn't want to take the risks where they could lose money if their team isn't profitable.

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    Three letters for anyone who actually think this would work...


    XFL


    Never heard of it? Not surprised.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFL

    Two of the most successful business men of this era, Vince McMahon and Ted Turner, with all the resources of two multi billion dollar companies, WWE and Time Warner couldn't get a new professional league off the ground.
    They had the stadiums, had the TV deals. They tried everything to poach players from the NFL. How many crossed over? None.
    Why? These guys have 10 odd years to make their money, the money that has to fund the rest of their lives. You think players are gonna give up guarenteed money and take a risk on a new start up league, wake up.

    The sheer amount of money need to start a professional league is absurd. Vince McMahon (multi billionaire, not like these multi millionaires) reportedly lost half his net worth in the venture.
    And you really think these players are going to put up their money to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walker
    Three letters for anyone who actually think this would work...

    XFL
    That's because the NFL was still around. The NFL had all the name players. XFL was a league of scrubs. (other problems too but that was the main one).

    This new "Bball Players League" would have ALL THE STARS. HUGE HUGE difference.

    What are you going to watch? This new league with Lebron, Kobe, Howard, etc.? Or the NBA with scrubs?

    Don't answer, it was rhetorical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Leon Smith
    I can't believe people think the players can just start up their own league as if it's as easy as registering a domain name and hiring a court.

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    Who says its easy? Any time you start a new business venture it takes time. But why do people think its impossible? I don't get it. Businessmen start new ventures all the time with MUCH MORE risk and needing MUCH more capital than this one. You already have the most important part....the content (players).

    Such small small thinkers....amazing. I suppose everything we've ever done in human history was too difficult also. Yet here we are.

    It wouldn't be nearly as difficult as some of you think it would be. The XFL was a failure, but they DID IT. Meaning, they put games togethers, had TV contracts, got stadiums to play in, referees, etc. etc. So how hard would it be for a new basketball league to be put together? Probably would be easier than that. Less players, less coaching staff, less referrees, less team equipment.....yada yada.......but this league would be a success, because we'll be watching the stars, not the scrubs.

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    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...ing-own-league

    NEW YORK -- If the NBA lockout forces the cancellation of the 2011-12 season, New York Knicks forward Amare Stoudemire says players will give "serious" consideration to starting their own league.

    According to Stoudemire, the possibility of forming an alternate league already has been discussed among players.

    "Obviously we're trying to ... get this lockout resolved. We want to play NBA basketball. But if it doesn't happen what are we gonna do? We can't just sit around and not do anything. So we have to figure out ways to now continue to play basketball at a high level against top competition and have fun doing it. So, that's the next step," Stoudemire said Tuesday night at a Manhattan Footlocker to promote his new sneaker, the Nike Air Max Sweep Thru.

    There are, of course, many hurdles to be cleared before players get an alternate league off the ground. Among those include finding a source for player salaries, game venues, broadcast rights and player insurance, just to name a few.

    Without addressing logistics, Stoudemire believes starting another league is an idea players will explore.

    "If we don't go to Europe, then let's start our own league; that's how I see it," the 6-foot-11 forward/center said.

    Stoudemire was asked to gauge "how serious" the idea is being considered.

    "It's very, very serious. It's just a matter of us strategically coming up with a plan, a blueprint and putting it together," he said. "So we'll see how this lockout goes. If it goes one or two years, then we've got to start our own league."

    Guess Amare is just delusional too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagelred
    Who says its easy? Any time you start a new business venture it takes time. But why do people think its impossible? I don't get it. Businessmen start new ventures all the time with MUCH MORE risk and needing MUCH more capital than this one. You already have the most important part....the content (players).

    Such small small thinkers....amazing. I suppose everything we've ever done in human history was too difficult also. Yet here we are.

    It wouldn't be nearly as difficult as some of you think it would be. The XFL was a failure, but they DID IT. Meaning, they put games togethers, had TV contracts, got stadiums to play in, referees, etc. etc. So how hard would it be for a new basketball league to be put together? Probably would be easier than that. Less players, less coaching staff, less referrees, less team equipment.....yada yada.......but this league would be a success, because we'll be watching the stars, not the scrubs.
    You assume that nba owners cant outbid. Lets assume that the nba remove the max salary cap on players, do you think the owners cant pay lebron or wade 30M each? And even if lebron and kobe decides to form their own league, most stars will still be tempted to play for the nba if they are offered 30M Compared to 3 million or even 0 in their new league. Coz im sure they would be incurring losses in their first few years just like XFL. If 80% of the stars remains, then most fans would still prefer watching NBA coz thats where the competition is. Thats why they cant just form their own league coz they cant just assure the loyalty of players due to being tempted of having a higher offer. These players can only play for 10 years and so they want to get paid as early as possible.

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    Amar'e Stoudemire suggested yesterday that players should consider starting their own league in the future, but only if the lockout goes 1-2 YEARS:

    Skim-read this: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8435

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    Why don't they do it then? Flat out say to the owners we can do your job, we don't need you, we can make owner money, thanks for the negotiations but we'll take it from here.

    Because realistically they can't. You think if they could make more money as owners of their own league they wouldn't be doing it by now? Amare even says if the lockout goes for another one or two years they'll look at it then. It's posturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus
    They would at least have to build planes, because after having flown all those years, I just don't see them taking train or bus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Gamble
    Right, because the only way to fly anywhere is to build your own airplane.
    Let me introduce you to each other.

    Sarcasm, this is Idiot. Idiot, this is Sarcasm.

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    Default Re: Should NBA players someday start their own league? Amare's cool with it

    Melo just mentioned them starting a players league.

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    Who keeps changing my thread titles? Jesus Christ.

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