Official "sarcastic" US Open thread

[undertaker21]

In this thread, mental midget Sarcastic can talk about about tennis as he knows it to be where Federer is the 3rd best players of all time, Monica Seles is better than Steffi Graf, and the years 1991 and 1992 aren't considered "early 90s." I think we'd all prefer if you keep your tennis opinions in here, because they really have no place in the other thread. Thanks.

Anyone second that?

[LJJ]

Yeah, what was he talking about again?

How Federer can't be the goat because Nadal dominated him on clay during his prime? Then he proceeds to claim Sampras is the greatestt even though Sampras was much worse on clay then Federer.



I don't mind people making an argument, but this is so inherently flawed.

[undertaker21]

^^ that's what i'm saying. Everyone has different opinions but his criteria for each different thing seems to change depending on what suits his argument and very little seems to be on the basis of facts.

[Sarcastic]

I never said Seles was better than Graf. I said Graf is number 2 GOAT behind Martina. I said the early 1990s are 1990-1993/4, which encompasses 1991 and 1992, so you are completely wrong about that.

I did rank Fed at 3 all time, so that you got right.

BTW thanks for dedicating an entire thread to me. If I could rep you I would, but I passed out too much recently. Cheers though

[bokes15]

I argued with him for a little while until I realized he had no idea what he was talking about and therefore there's no point. It kind of reminds me of what it was like arguing with Mathius about things he didn't know about.

[LJJ]

I argued with him for a little while until I realized he had no idea what he was talking about and therefore there's no point. It kind of reminds me of what it was like arguing with Mathius about things he didn't know about.

I enjoyed reading that thread though.

Sampras' era is tougher because of Edberg and Becker. These are gems.

[undertaker21]

I enjoyed reading that thread though.

Sampras' era is tougher because of Edberg and Becker. These are gems.

Yeah. Even though in the prime stretch for Pete Sampras (1995-2000) they were pretty much approaching the end of their career and not presenting nearly the same type of challenge they did in the late 80s and early 90s.

[Sarcastic]

I enjoyed reading that thread though.

Sampras' era is tougher because of Edberg and Becker. These are gems.

Not just those guys, but others as well.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me about the great players in this era besides Nadal and Federer. Maybe you can oblige.

[undertaker21]

Not just those guys, but others as well.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me about the great players in this era besides Nadal and Federer. Maybe you can oblige.

Nobody has done so because Becker and Lendl weren't even a part of Sampras' era. They overlapped, but Lendl is 11 years older than him and Becker won the vast majority of his titles in the late 80s and early 90s. Going by your criteria I might as well be saying that this era is greater because Federer had to contend with Agassi and Samprass.

[Sarcastic]

Nobody has done so because Becker and Lendl weren't even a part of Sampras' era. They overlapped, but Lendl is 11 years older than him and Becker won the vast majority of his titles in the late 80s and early 90s. Going by your criteria I might as well be saying that this era is greater because Federer had to contend with Agassi and Samprass.

I don't know why you are using Lendl's name. I never bring him up at all. I know his era is before Sampras.

But Becker was not. He continued to be a great player through the 1990s. His first title was at Wimbledon in 1985 at 17 years old. In the 1990s he was still in his mid 20s. He didn't hit 30 until 1997. He won the Aus Open in 1991 and 1996. He was still a major force at all the other tournaments too.

[undertaker21]

I guess we can pretty much add lying to your resume, if it wasn't bad enough already.

Besides Edberg, Becker, and Lendl, there were much better players in the 1990s than there are now.

BTW, Edberg and Becker were still capable of winning Majors in the 1990s and did so.

[Sarcastic]

I guess we can pretty much add lying to your resume, if it wasn't bad enough already.

Well Lendl was competitive until 1991-1992, right when Sampras was coming up. I bring him up more as a symbol of a stronger era than someone who really competed against Sampras.

[LJJ]

Not just those guys, but others as well.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me about the great players in this era besides Nadal and Federer. Maybe you can oblige.

Very much a chicken or the egg argument there. Not a whole lot of room for other greats to profile themselves when a prime Federer barely leaves anything on the table. And then there is Nadal right after Federer, very much on his way himself to reaching that same status.

If you look at the guys Sampras beat in the finals, though, it's not more impressive than Federer's. There is Agassi, but do you really think guys like Michael Chang, Ivanisevic and Pioline are better than guys like Roddick, Djokovic or Hewitt?

I don't see it.

[boozehound]

Boy, tennis is awesome! I cant watch enough of it!

Sarcastic enough for ya?

[boozehound]

oh noes! I got negged for this? You big meanie!