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Old 03-25-2013, 04:08 AM   #151
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I don't understand why some people said that Magic was the most overrated. Obviously they did not see him play. He was such an unique player. The most overrated player should be Bill Walton. And it is only because of injuries. He had great college career, had all the talent, but in his NBA career he was injured half his career and had only 2 or 3 good seasons (and they were also cut by injuries). I like him and his unselfish style of play anyway.

because lebron fanboys cant accept the fact that a lesser player to bird has more rings than a player who plays like lebron. In fact I consider bird to be one of the most overrated coz he only won once in his prime where he had better stats. The first 2 rings was when he wasnt posting superstar numbers yet. They just really dont want lebron to be exposed just like oscar so they defend players who plays like him.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:11 AM   #152
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Jalen Rose
Who overrates him? He was a good scorer on crappy teams, that's about it.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:16 AM   #153
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Reggie Miller.

Jordan (We have people predicting he would average 40 ppg today and that he is the best player ever in every single category of basketball).

Penny Hardaway is the most overrated by miles since he retired though.
Actually, Phil Jackson said something to that effect, along with a few other former NBA players and coaches...

The hand check rule has favored the perimeter game
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...-place/page/15

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Old 03-25-2013, 06:08 AM   #154
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Actually, Phil Jackson said something to that effect, along with a few other former NBA players and coaches...

The hand check rule has favored the perimeter game
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...-place/page/15

MJ could score 40 ppg, but depending on the team he played - I mean that he as a player could but it is not clear how it will reflect to his team. If he is in a team with consistent second scorer his numbers will be similar to the ones he had when playing.
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BALTIMORE (AP)—For the first time since he started playing basketball more years ago than he cares to remember, Oscar Robertson sipped the sweet taste of success.

“This is the first time I’ve ever had champagne in the dressing room,” he said off in one corner with just a trace of sadness as his Milwaukee Buck teammates celebrated noisily around him.

But the feeling was there for only a brief second, and then a big grin returned to his face.

“We only got soft drinks when we won the title in high school, but this is the big time.”

For Oscar, more than any of the Bucks, the champagne was a dream come true, the once seemingly impossible dream. For 10 years he had labored with the Cincinnati Royals, the top backcourt man in basketball, but never a professional champion.

And then came the trade to Milwaukee last year, and with it the final piece of the puzzle the Bucks so quickly put together in only three short years.

The dream came true Friday night as Robertson led the Bucks to a 118-106 victory over the Baltimore Bullets and a four-game sweep of the best-of-7 game series for the National Basketball Association title.

Oscar, still unstoppable at 32 years of age and giving perhaps the best defensive effort of his career, pumped in 21 of his 30 points in the first half of the nationally-televised finale as the Bucks surged ahead 60-47 by intermission, and never looked back.

And although 7-3 Lew Alcindor, the dominating giant in the middle who notched 27 points in the clincher, was selected the Most Valuable Player in the championship series, Robertson had his own backers.

“The MVP? Oscar,” said Coach Gene Shue of the Bullets, without hesitation. “He was the leader, he controlled the offense, he hit the open man and he played tremendous defense. I said when they got him they would be the best team in basketball

Alcindor, too, who has worked hand-in-glove with his fellow superstar to make the dream possible, had nothing but praise for his running mate.

“Oscar pulled us through,” he said after a slapping handshake between the two in the center of a wild, wet celebration. “When things bogged down, we could always look to Oscar
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I don't understand why some people said that Magic was the most overrated. Obviously they did not see him play. He was such an unique player. The most overrated player should be Bill Walton. And it is only because of injuries. He had great college career, had all the talent, but in his NBA career he was injured half his career and had only 2 or 3 good seasons (and they were also cut by injuries). I like him and his unselfish style of play anyway.
Overrated doesn't mean bad.
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not as the man

neither did Kobe.
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It's fine to have him at the top spot.. He actually has the best case of anyone. But people literally scoff at you if you say someone else is better. If you put..

Larry Bird on the Knicks(instead of starks)
Magic on Portland(instead of porter)
Wilt on the Warriors(instead of webber)
Kareem on the Jazz(instead of malone)

In the 90s with equal teams Is MJ going to lead the Bulls past all of them every year? There's probably a different champion every year.

Arguably all of those, definitely the first two, aren't equal teams. And even then, I'd give the bulls a decent shot to still win 6.
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The Magic over Bird sentiments began to take root before Magic retired. It is indeed true that Bird was considered better over the first half of their respective careers, but the '87 Finals combined with Bird's injuries and Magic's continued success caused people's opinions to shift. So this is not a case of getting overrated "since" retirement.
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The Magic over Bird sentiments began to take root before Magic retired. It is indeed true that Bird was considered better over the first half of their respective careers, but the '87 Finals combined with Bird's injuries and Magic's continued success caused people's opinions to shift. So this is not a case of getting overrated "since" retirement.

There was GOAT talk for Magic while he was playing, which I've posted on here before. So either they weren't following basketball at the time, weren't following what was going on past their favorite player/team, or they don't remember it.
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