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View Poll Results: Whose performance was worse?
Giannis 19' ECF vs. Champs - 23/14/6 on 44.8 fg.. 23.7% on jumpers 8 57.14%
Lebron 07' Finals vs. Champs - 22/7/6 on 35.6 fg.. 17.9% on jumpers 6 42.86%
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:21 AM   #1
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Default 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

Links for jumpshot stats:

Giannis: https://stats.nba.com/player/203507/...offs&PORound=3

Lebron: https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/sh...offs&PORound=4

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Old 08-18-2019, 01:32 AM   #2
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron - worst performances

Post Jordan's stats in the finals at the same age.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:53 AM   #3
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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Post Jordan's stats in the finals at the same age.

Stats at 22-24 yrs old against the champs and #1 defense


22 yrs old - Lebron 07' Finals vs. SAS - 22/7/6 on 35.6 fg
23 yrs old - Lebron 08' ECSF vs. BOS - 26/6/8 on 35.5 fg
23 yrs old - Jordan 86' 1st Rd vs. BOS - 44/6/6 on 50.1 fg
24 yrs old - Giannis 19' ECF vs. TOR - 23/14/6 on 44.8 fg


MJ > Giannis > Lebron





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20 years old - Magic 80' Finals vs. PHI - 21/11/9 on 57.3%

So no excuses...
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:58 AM   #4
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

Giannis next king in line. We get it.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:03 AM   #5
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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Giannis next king in line. We get it.
Maybe

But also that Lebron's performance at 22-24 years old against championship comp pales compared to Giannis, and also MJ, as plowking pointed out in the previous post above... And 20-year old Magic

(btw, i added lebron's 2008 performance against the champs in the 2nd round (BOS) which was almost as bad as 07' vs SAS)
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:17 AM   #6
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

Ordan got swept in the first round, so any of those players are better.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:20 AM   #7
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

I wanted his stats in the finals for that age.

Waiting.
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:01 AM   #8
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both over Ordan
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Old 08-18-2019, 12:33 PM   #9
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

3Ball, Giannis will never be as good as LeBron. I know you think LeBron has zero skills (which is wrong) but he's far more skilled than Giannis. He came into the league able to hit fadeaways, make layups with his offhand, pass and handle the ball and cross people.

Giannis didn't even play against a team that was way better than his like LeBron did. He just flatout got outplayed by Kawhi lol. No shaem in that, Kawhi is better. But still.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:20 PM   #10
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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3Ball, Giannis will never be as good as LeBron. I know you think LeBron has zero skills (which is wrong) but he's far more skilled than Giannis. He came into the league able to hit fadeaways, make layups with his offhand, pass and handle the ball and cross people.

Giannis didn't even play against a team that was way better than his like LeBron did. He just flatout got outplayed by Kawhi lol. No shaem in that, Kawhi is better. But still.


I dont disagree with your point but id like to enter this into evidence anyway......

These are the first two shots of Giannis career:










He could have gone a different path....and probably been worse for it. Hes trying to get back some of that touch and inbetween game he lost becoming a downhill physical force. He came in shooting a bit though.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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I dont disagree with your point but id like to enter this into evidence anyway......

These are the first two shots of Giannis career:










He could have gone a different path....and probably been worse for it. Hes trying to get back some of that touch and inbetween game he lost becoming a downhill physical force. He came in shooting a bit though.


Yeah I have seen him pull out the fadeaway at times. He should get back to that a bit. Need guys who can score in the halfcourt easily if you want to win a chip.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:29 PM   #12
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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I wanted his stats in the finals for that age.

Waiting.


How about someone we all agree was worse than Jordan:


20 years old - Magic 80' Finals vs. PHI - 21/11/9 on 57.3%
22 yrs old - Lebron 07' Finals vs. SAS - 22/7/6 on 35.6 fg

23 yrs old - Lebron 08' ECSF vs. BOS - 26/6/8 on 35.5 fg
23 yrs old - Jordan 86' 1st Rd vs. BOS - 44/6/6 on 50.1 fg


MJ > Magic > Lebron

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Old 08-18-2019, 02:32 PM   #13
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

Honestly Lebron was better in 06 than he was in 07...and probably in 08 as well.

Lebron didn't become the best player in the league until he took another leap in 09.

I expect Giannis to take another leap in about 2 years.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:37 PM   #14
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

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I dont disagree with your point but id like to enter this into evidence anyway......

These are the first two shots of Giannis career:










He could have gone a different path....and probably been worse for it. Hes trying to get back some of that touch and inbetween game he lost becoming a downhill physical force. He came in shooting a bit though.


well he's regressed then... one of the ugliest jumpers in the league now. 6'11 rondo.

Lebron actually has good form and technique just seems to be shook sometimes.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:41 PM   #15
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Default Re: 19' Giannis vs. 07' Lebron

Id say atrophy is more the word. A lot of guys are like that. Lose the skills they came in with because they are asked to play differently. Tyson Chandler played some 3 as a rookie and used to shoot pullup jumpers. Mutombo could score as a rookie. A lot of these spot up shooters had handles in college and high school.

Use it or lose it.
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