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Old 05-14-2019, 12:23 PM   #16
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Clearly it does cause you're in here whining like a baby.


What kind of job do you have, Jefferson? I can't imagine you have any respectable job with the type of close-mindedness that you have. You strike me as very low-IQ.

Lol.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:43 PM   #17
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Bosnian_Sajo,

If you want to learn Islam--- I suggest the following people:
Shaykh Bin Baz
Shaykh Uthaymeen
Bilal Philips
Musa Jibril
Bilal Assad

NOTE: They are hated and reviled by Non-Muslims and referred to as "terrorists" and "extremists" and "Islamists"
That's part of their test to be willing to go against society to speak the TRUTH..

If you want to go to Hell and die a hypocrite--I suggest the following people:
Tawhidi
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Reza Aslan
Maajid Nawaaz
Nabeel Qureshi
Irshad Manji


NOTE: They are beloved and celebritized by Non-Muslims having much airtime in the media.
That's part of their evil fate as the sell-out Uncle Tom frenemy devilish they are, to try to destroy Islam and drag innocent muslims along with them to Hell spouting out all kinds of lies.

It's interesting to note, that in the black community, there are REAL N****Z and we have UNCLE TOMS. Be a REAL N*****. As someone who loves rap, you have been taught about the virtues of integrity, authenticity, loyalty, fidelity, truthfulness etc.


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect you by ignoring your Q, Bosnian_Sajo, given this individual's history and claims, I don't think he is worth your attention. I didn't watch the video, because I've been taught not to listen to hypocrites. Here are the tell-tale signs of the type I'm talking about.


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The hypocrites are always confused, always planning deceit and plots. Although outwardly they appear to be with the believers, inwardly they are with the kaafireen.

Wearing Islamic clothing like Imam Tawheedi while going on talk shows and bashing Muslims counts in this. This guy talks smack about Linda Sarsour and Ilhan Omar and has "dedicated his life to combating Islamic extremism."---
This guy is willing to try to connect any regular Muslim with terror to appease his Non-Muslim masters.

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So sometimes they are inclined towards the believers and sometimes they are inclined towards the kaafireen. “(They are) swaying between this and that, belonging neither to these nor to those; and he whom Allaah sends astray, you will not find for him a way (to the truth — Islam)” [al-Nisaa’ 4:143 – interpretation of the meaning]

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The dealings of the hypocrites revolve around their own interests. When they meet the believers, they make a show of belief and loyalty, in order to deceive the believers and as an action of dissimulation, hoping for whatever good and war-booty they have. But when they meet their masters and chiefs, they say, we are with you in your shirk and kufr. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when they meet those who believe, they say: “We believe,” but when they are alone with their Shayaateen (devils — polytheists, hypocrites), they say: “Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking. Allaah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doing to wander blindly” [al-Baqarah 2:14-15]

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The hypocrites have many characteristics which are :
1- The worst and most serious of which is disbelief in Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when it is said to them (hypocrites): ‘Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad, Al-Ansaar and Al-Muhaajiroon) have believed,’ they say: ‘Shall we believe as the fools have believed?’ Verily, they are the fools, but they know not” [al-Baqarah 2:13]

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2- Enmity and envy (hasad) towards the believers, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“If good befalls you (O Muhammad), it grieves them, but if a calamity overtakes you, they say: ‘We took our precaution beforehand’ and they turn away rejoicing”[al-Tawbah 9:50]

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3- Mockery of Allaah, His Messenger and His religion. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?' Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed” [al-Tawbah 9:65-66]

Tawhidi was crying on Twitter about CAIR not being able to take a joke---and that joke was extremely inappropriate.

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4- They spread corruption on earth, with disbelief, hypocrisy and sins. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when it is said to them: ‘Make not mischief on the earth,’ they say: ‘We are only peacemakers.’ Verily, they are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not” [al-Baqarah 2:11-12]

5- Slander and lies. Allaah tells us about them (interpretation of the meaning):
“They swear by Allaah that they are truly, of you while they are not of you, but they are a people (hypocrites) who are afraid (that you may kill them)” [al-Tawbah 9:56]

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6- They enjoin what is evil and forbid what is good, and they are stingy with their wealth. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“The hypocrites, men and women, are one from another; they enjoin (on the people) Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief and polytheism of all kinds and all that Islam has forbidden), and forbid (people) from Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do), and they close their hands [from giving (spending in Allaah’s Cause) alms]. They have forgotten Allaah, so He has forgotten them. Verily, the hypocrites are the Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”[al-Tawbah 9:67]

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7- Greed and avarice:
“And of them are some who accuse you (O Muhammad) in the matter of (the distribution of) the alms. If they are given part thereof, they are pleased, but if they are not given thereof, behold! They are enraged![al-Tawbah 9: 58 – interpretation of the meaning]

8- The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“There are four (characteristics), whoever has all of them is a complete hypocrite, and whoever has some of them has some element of hypocrisy, unless he gives it up: when he speaks, he lies; when he makes a treaty, he betrays it; when he makes a promise, he breaks it; when he quarrels, he resorts to insults.”(Narrated by Muslim, 53)

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9- Their concern with appearances and fancy speech whilst they are inwardly corrupt. Allaah says concerning them (interpretation of the meaning):
“And when you look at them, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are as blocks of wood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allaah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path?” [al-Munaafiqoon 63:4]
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:55 PM   #18
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....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.

You're a muslim? As if you weren't already unlikable enough as it is with all your little temper tantrums. Makes sense, though. You muslims are always very angry and violent.
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:48 PM   #19
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....you guys do realize we agree with this Imam for the most part, right? The only difference between him and me is that he is Shia and I am Sunni. Other than that, we are pretty much fully in agreement.

Well...this is obviously not the case.
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:53 PM   #20
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Bosnian_Sajo,

If you want to learn Islam---


How condescending.


Mind you, Bosnian_Sajo IS a Muslim for all intents and purposes, but Jihad Jefferson over here disagrees. He's not radical enough apparently.
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:47 AM   #21
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How condescending.


Mind you, Bosnian_Sajo IS a Muslim for all intents and purposes, but Jihad Jefferson over here disagrees. He's not radical enough apparently.

Oh I see you getting giddy and excited at causing dissension between brothers. How devilish of you naughty Patty. Divide and conquer like the western imperialist powers did to Arabia and Turkey eh?

Do you know the consequences of provoking conflict between people in the Hereafter Pat?

No condescension towards B.sajo here. Just brother to brother advice. Deen takes long time to learn. Aqeedah. Arabic. Tafsir. Hadith. And much more. Can take decades and for people like us with jobs and families and hobbies even longer.

Muhammad (PBUH) warned us about wicked and astray "scholars"

Bosnian knows a lot lot more than me in many other things in life like engineering and people. My ears are open if he would like to share any tips. Last time he gave me advice on not wasting time with you guys and I don't respond as much.

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Old 05-15-2019, 03:02 AM   #22
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As expected, Jefferson triggered
Wouldn't expect any less from a low iq, radical inbred.


Better keep an eye out for those inside out burqas
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:11 AM   #23
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Jefferson mad that there's non-radical Muslims out there that aren't trying to indoctrinate folks.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:28 AM   #24
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Islam fundamentalism is a disease. The moderate Muslims are starting to speak out and act against this all over the world. Took them long enough but I'm glad they do because it really is their role to be the main frontier to eradicate this disease.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:33 AM   #25
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J money your trolling is gonna get you an FBI visit. If you are seriously trying to radicalise people here I actually hope you get picked up.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:22 AM   #26
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J$ got fools on a leash
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:05 AM   #27
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J$ got fools on a leash

Alt confirmed.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:33 AM   #28
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Bosnian_Sajo,

If you want to learn Islam--- I suggest the following people:
Shaykh Bin Baz
Shaykh Uthaymeen
Bilal Philips
Musa Jibril
Bilal Assad

NOTE: They are hated and reviled by Non-Muslims and referred to as "terrorists" and "extremists" and "Islamists"
That's part of their test to be willing to go against society to speak the TRUTH..

If you want to go to Hell and die a hypocrite--I suggest the following people:
Tawhidi
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Reza Aslan
Maajid Nawaaz
Nabeel Qureshi
Irshad Manji


NOTE: They are beloved and celebritized by Non-Muslims having much airtime in the media.
That's part of their evil fate as the sell-out Uncle Tom frenemy devilish they are, to try to destroy Islam and drag innocent muslims along with them to Hell spouting out all kinds of lies.



Look man...I don't learn Islam on the internet. It's just not something I do or recommend to anyone, you don't learn it on your own. There is a reason it is highly recommended to find a Shaykh who you can take advice from in your life, in person, who knows their people.


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Tawhidi was crying on Twitter about CAIR not being able to take a joke---and that joke was extremely inappropriate.

I saw his joke on twitter, it was definitely inappropriate considering this is a man who claims to be an imam. In no way shape or form should an imam ever joke about that kind of stuff, so yeah it definitely takes away from his credibility...but having said that, the video in the OP of this thread he makes a LOT of valid points. I'm not saying EVERYTHING about this guy is agreeable (I don't know him, I've only seen him from this one video and his twitter account), what I am saying is the points he brings up in the OP's video specifically are things that I can agree with absolutely.
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:02 AM   #29
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Fine.

I'll leave.

Take care everybody
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Fine.

I'll leave.

Take care everybody

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