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Old 10-19-2018, 08:37 PM   #16
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Default Re: If LeBron doesn't win a Chip in Los Angeles it will destroy his legacy

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How so...the word around your guys mindset is not adding to Finals count while losing is a good thing, meaning exiting before the finals.

So why do the goal posts shift now?


hey if you would agree lebrons rings are bogus leastern conference manufactured ring chasing worthless garbage then i'll stop making fun of his finals losses


you can't have it both ways


and as far as the not making it/losing in the finals criteria goes. if you have a team that should be in the finals and you don't make it. then its a black eye... ala Dirk 2007



and nobodies saying Lebron MUST make the finals. we know he can't and shouldn't. and we wouldn't hate on him for THIS SEASON since hes not expected to make it. so for THIS YEAR it wouldn't be a bad thing not to make the finals. but for his other accolades it would totally destroy their credibility if he doesn't make the finals over the next 4 years


anyone can luck out 1 series.. to go through 4 legit teams is what makes a legit champion ...



imagine if the 2011 lakers were in the east and the 2011 heat were in the west. the finals woulda been dallas vs LA. and who knows. maybe the lakers ball out. anything can happen over 1 week ( like the cavs beating the warriors )


get it?
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:39 PM   #17
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hey if you would agree lebrons rings are bogus leastern conference manufactured ring chasing worthless garbage then i'll stop making fun of his finals losses


you can't have it both ways


and as far as the not making it/losing in the finals criteria goes. if you have a team that should be in the finals and you don't make it. then its a black eye... ala Dirk 2007



and nobodies saying Lebron MUST make the finals. we know he can't and shouldn't. and we wouldn't hate on him for THIS SEASON since hes not expected to make it. so for THIS YEAR it wouldn't be a bad thing not to make the finals. but for his other accolades it would totally destroy their credibility if he doesn't make the finals over the next 4 years


anyone can luck out 1 or 2 series.... to go through 4 legit teams is what makes a legit champion ...



imagine if the 2011 lakers were in the east and the 2011 heat were in the west. the finals woulda been dallas vs LA. and who knows. maybe the lakers ball out. anything can happen over 1 week ( like the cavs beating the warriors )


get it?


Just more back pedaling and goal post moving to suit your agenda...apply it to all or stfu
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:42 PM   #18
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Just more back pedaling and goal post moving to suit your agenda...apply it to all or stfu



it really isn't... to make a long story short


not making the finals would be fine for this year... lebrons not expected to make it


however never making it over the next 4 years only proves lebron was never meant to be in the finals ....



so you can void all his finals wins and losses
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:45 PM   #19
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Is MJ no longer an all time great because of what he did in Washington? What about Joe Montana and the Chiefs? Does anyone even care about what Dream did in Toronto?

If the answer to all of that is "no" then why I'd this different? J
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:48 PM   #20
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look at this and tell me with a straight face that IF THIS HAPPENS it DOESN'T tarnish lebrons legacy and "accomplishments" coming out of the Least with a free ticket to the finals




2011 East - Finals
2012 East - Finals *lockout title
2013 East - Finals *lucked out title
2014 East - Finals
2015 East - Finals
2016 East - Finals *lucked out title
2017 East - Finals
2018 East - Finals
2019 West - No Finals
2020 West - No Finals
2021 West - No Finals
2022 West - No Finals
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:48 PM   #21
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Is MJ no longer an all time great because of what he did in Washington? What about Joe Montana and the Chiefs? Does anyone even care about what Dream did in Toronto?

If the answer to all of that is "no" then why I'd this different? J

LeBron signed a super max deal for 4 years and is supposedly still in his prime, way different scenarios.
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:50 PM   #22
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Is MJ no longer an all time great because of what he did in Washington? What about Joe Montana and the Chiefs? Does anyone even care about what Dream did in Toronto?

If the answer to all of that is "no" then why I'd this different? J


only problem with this is


- everyone calls lebron the best player on the planet

- all last year they said it was his best season as of yet.

- all last year they said lebron carried soup cans to the finals and can make any team a contender

also

- everyone says lebron has the mvp locked up if they just make the playoffs



why does lebron get all this hype if he's on the level of wizards MJ





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Old 10-19-2018, 08:52 PM   #23
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LeBron signed a super max deal for 4 years and is supposedly still in his prime, way different scenarios.

So If you feel he’s not in his prime, then why would not making the finals hurt him? Kind of becomes irrelevant...Or do u secretly believe he’s still prime?

Which is it lebron-photos-lover?
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:54 PM   #24
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So If you feel hes not in his prime, then why would not making the finals hurt him? Kind of becomes irrelevant...Or do u secretly believe hes still prime?

Which is it lebron-photos-lover?

You tell me, he's juicing heavily to extend his career.

It's getting more blatant every year with how he's blowing up bigger and bigger.
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:54 PM   #25
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only problem with this is


- everyone calls lebron the best player on the planet

- all last year they said it was his best season as of yet.

- all last year they said lebron carried soup cans to the finals and can make any team a contender

also

- everyone says lebron has the mvp locked up if they just make the playoffs



why does lebron get all this hype if he's on the level of wizards MJ






See above...if hes MJ wizards level, then him not making the finals is irrelevant right? Unless you go with the narrative that hes still prime.

Lets hear the hypocritical response Kenny...btw, in the lair tonight? lol
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:55 PM   #26
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You tell me, he's juicing heavily to extend his career.

It's getting more blatant every year with how he's blowing up bigger and bigger.


No Im not here to form your opinion...lol

Just tuck your tail and sign off...maybe Getty imagines released some new material for u to fap to tonight
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:55 PM   #27
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So If you feel hes not in his prime, then why would not making the finals hurt him? Or do u believe hes still prime?

Which is lebron-photos-lover?




lebron and his fans in a nutshell:


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"we want all the praise/accolades/love/appreciation and respect in victory and none of the pressure/fault/expectations in defeat"

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LeBron signed a super max deal for 4 years and is supposedly still in his prime, way different scenarios.
No it isn't. Nothing can change what these players have done. James has 4 MVPs. The only people who will hold not winning a ring in LA against him are people like you that already criticized him anyway. Almost everyone says he's top 5 and most say he's top 3. That's firm until someone better comes along.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:01 PM   #29
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See above...if hes MJ wizards level, then him not making the finals is irrelevant right? Unless you go with the narrative that hes still prime.

Lets hear the hypocritical response Kenny...btw, in the lair tonight? lol


hey... if the media and fans would shut up about the whole "lebrons the best player on the planet" nonsense and also the MVP agenda they're pushing.. then lebron would have an excuse not to live up to at least one finals appearance


but if he's as good as ever then he has to make it. he single handedly beat the warriors. hes GOAT!... he carries SOUP CANS!... he leads in EVERY CATEGORY... he defends ALL 5 POSITIONS... hes THE BEST RIGHT NOW... he MAKES THE FINALS EVERY YEAR


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Is MJ no longer an all time great because of what he did in Washington? What about Joe Montana and the Chiefs? Does anyone even care about what Dream did in Toronto?

If the answer to all of that is "no" then why I'd this different? J

Because Jordan wasn't gifted Finals appearances and also didn't collude.

And Jordan won 6 Finals and FMVP before Washington, not lose them and hand over FMVP to direct opponents most of the time.
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