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Bran Fam Member
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
are you including playoffs?
Curry's best Playoff run is 28/6/7 on 46% shooting with 4 turnovers per game
Kobe averaged 29/7/6 on 47% shooting with a higher PER and WS/48 at age 22 going 15-1 in the Playoffs
let's be real here
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... on a leash
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
LeBron has had multiple seasons with a higher RAPM, PER, WS... and more dominant post-seasons and all-around numbers.
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Bear Chested Da Brawn
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
LeBron has had multiple seasons with a higher RAPM, PER, WS... and more dominant post-seasons and all-around numbers.
it will be all settled after this series
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by plowking
Curry just put up a 30/5/7 season... How is he not well rounded?
Not to mention that season was better than any Kobe or Bron had.
I don't get the hate for the Warriors brand of basketball. It wins games, it is a new, refreshing brand of ball we haven't seen, a PG is leading a team to championships since the first time in forever, a team that hasn't won many championships in the past, and led by an all round good guy in Curry.
So they shoot a bunch of threes? Who cares? Do what you're good at. Since when is it cheap, or considered flukey to do that? People always loved seeing a guy catch fire from beyond the arc. Now... you just get to witness it a hell of a lot more since the guy is so damn good.
Better season than any lebron has had maybe you should Check again on that and wake the f@ck up.. I would take 30, 8,7 with elite D any time slappy..
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Verticle?
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ImKobe
30/5/7 is better than any season Kobe/Lebron had
raw numbers-wise Kobe and Lebron both averaged more points and rebounds in a season and efficiency-wise Lebron has better seasons
Lebron's 27/8/7 on 57% shooting/64%TS with a 31.6 PER .322 WS/48 > Curry's 30/5/7 on 50% shooting/67%TS with a 31.5 PER .318 WS/48
and Bran had 2 other seasons with above 31 PER
and we didn't even mention their ability on the defensive end
we don't even need to dive into the Playoffs
I'm a Heat fan, I remember that season very well.
I will take it back and say it is arguable, but for me I don't remember being this much in awe of a players ability. Curry seems like the more unstoppable player to me.
But yes, it is better than any season Kobe has had.
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... on a leash
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
2009/2010/2012/2013 LeBron > 2016 Curry
hesitant to include 2014.
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... on a leash
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Oh, and dont be surprised if CURRENT LeBron will outplay Curry in the finals... again
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Verticle?
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
2009/2010/2012/2013 LeBron > 2016 Curry
hesitant to include 2014.
Sure bud.
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Decent college freshman
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Yeah, Bron has to win for the sake of basketball.
This 3-point shot-jacking is ruining the game. I can't see how anyone who is a fan of the game can tolerate this crap. I mean OKC essentially lost because Steph and Klay hit some low percentage threes and that is bullshit.
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Laker Nation
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
2009/2010/2012/2013 LeBron > 2016 Curry
hesitant to include 2014.
uhhhhhh no. Just stop.
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NBA All-star
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
ISH...where guys who shoot the ball well are destroying the game.
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Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by game3524
Yeah, Bron has to win for the sake of basketball.
This 3-point shot-jacking is ruining the game. I can't see how anyone who is a fan of the game can tolerate this crap. I mean OKC essentially lost because Steph and Klay hit some low percentage threes and that is bullshit.
It's a polarizing view of the game when you look at the TNT crew.
Reggie and Kenny are huge fans of Golden State. (Both Guards)
Charles and Shaq seem irritated by Golden State (Both Big men)
Webber actually is probably the more unbiased guy of them.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by plowking
I'm a Heat fan, I remember that season very well.
I will take it back and say it is arguable, but for me I don't remember being this much in awe of a players ability. Curry seems like the more unstoppable player to me.
But yes, it is better than any season Kobe has had.
a full season consists of regular season AND Playoffs
Steph Curry has ZERO Playoff runs as the Finals MVP, Kobe has at least 3 championship runs that are better than Curry's based on stats alone, one might argue that Kobe's Playoff run in 2000 is better than Curry's based on what he did in Portland series and what he did coming back from injury in Game 4 @ Indiana.
It depends on what you value more. Either you value the stats these guys put up while facing lottery teams/bad defenses half of the season or you value their production in the Playoffs as well.
If you take both into account you can't make a case for Steph over either player. Imagine Lebron or Kobe not win a Finals MVP over their bench player in a Finals win he didn't even get ONE vote
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Decent college freshman
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by PP34Deuce
It's a polarizing view of the game when you look at the TNT crew.
Reggie and Kenny are huge fans of Golden State. (Both Guards)
Charles and Shaq seem irritated by Golden State (Both Big men)
Webber actually is probably the more unbiased guy of them.
Yeah, it seems that guards who took alot of threes(Reggie, Kenny etc.) are ok with it, while big guys or guys who played fundamentally sound basketball can't stand them(Big O, Chuck etc.)
My issue isn't even the threes. SA takes a ton of threes, but they have generally played inside/out over the years and a lot of them are high percentage shots created out of ball-movement. GS doesn't do that, the majority of Klay and Steph's threes are terrible shots and I hate how that gets rewarded/celebrate among fans.
It is bad basketball pure and simple.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: This is Lebron's chance to put an end to the fraud that is GS
Originally Posted by ImKobe
If you take both into account you can't make a case for Steph over either player. Imagine Lebron or Kobe not win a Finals MVP over their bench player in a Finals win he didn't even get ONE vote
its the same as larry bird letting cedric maxwell win FMVP .. when you have great selfless players that make everyone around them better, thats a good thing, not a bad thing. Curry was easily better player than Iggy in that series, Iggy just captured the storyline and won votes of media / journalists.
I'm a big kobe fan, but im not blind. When Kobe gets to the Finals, he turns an extra gear on his chucking, probably in anxiety of wanting to win FMVP since he was dogged for being a sidekick by guys saying the stuff you are saying now about curry. This warped his performances in the Finals pretty badly.. I mean he beasted against tougher west teams but almost always shot like shit when Finals came around.
Curry wont let your hate turn him into a selfish player like what happened to kobe though. He's too smart for that.
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