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Old 01-09-2018, 11:53 PM   #1
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:06 AM   #2
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Smart people can figure out why taxes are bad.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:20 AM   #3
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I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if they went to the common good like college education for anyone who wants to go, healthcare for all, modern infrastructure, social security etc...

But as long as way too much of our taxes are going to an overbloated military to terrorize the rest of the world and to drop bombs on brown people's heads then I say fukk that...lower taxes.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:40 AM   #4
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I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if they went to the common good like college education for anyone who wants to go, healthcare for all, modern infrastructure, social security etc...

But as long as way too much of our taxes are going to an overbloated military to terrorize the rest of the world and to drop bombs on brown people's heads then I say fukk that...lower taxes.

Bless your heart for wanting people's money to go to noble things, but the fundamental problem is governments never spend money efficiently in the first place.

By the time $1 goes into say, schooling, there's only 15 cents left.
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Old 01-10-2018, 12:58 PM   #5
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I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if they went to the common good like college education for anyone who wants to go, healthcare for all, modern infrastructure, social security etc...

But as long as way too much of our taxes are going to an overbloated military to terrorize the rest of the world and to drop bombs on brown people's heads then I say fukk that...lower taxes.

If you want your money to go towards programs such as those, then why not simply donate to places which directly help with that and be fully opposed taxes, which are, essentially, involuntary "donations"
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:11 PM   #6
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If you want your money to go towards programs such as those, then why not simply donate to places which directly help with that and be fully opposed taxes, which are, essentially, involuntary "donations"

Exactly.

People say 'I want to pay more taxes so that we can....'

OK. Pay more taxes then. Nobody is telling you that you can't.

You're so cool, and edgy, and brave by offering up your disposable income, but only if EVERYONE HAS to.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:19 PM   #7
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If you want your money to go towards programs such as those, then why not simply donate to places which directly help with that and be fully opposed taxes, which are, essentially, involuntary "donations"
Perhaps because most people donít have enough to donate after theyíre taxes have left them with little to nothing to give.

Most people live pay check to pay check.
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Liberals like to sound off on how much the government should be providing for everyone but when any of them starts to make a little money you better believe they do everything they can to limit their tax burden.
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Liberals like to sound off on how much the government should be providing for everyone but when any of them starts to make a little money you better believe they do everything they can to limit their tax burden.
I increased my donations to charities with every raise and/or new job.

My past jobs allocated money from our paycheck to charity/ies of our choice, and I always increased the amount with every raise.

Iím in a better financial position now, so I donate even more than ever even tho I pay more taxes.
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I increased my donations to charities with every raise and/or new job.

My past jobs allocated money from our paycheck to charity/ies of our choice, and I always increased the amount with every raise.

Iím in a better financial position now, so I donate even more than ever even tho I pay more taxes.

If every leftist did the same, we wouldn't need to raise taxes.

Good on you.

Between my fiance and I, we have probably donated over $2k worth of cash and goodies this year to the animal shelter where we got our two cats.

That's how it should be... pay your taxes, and then donate to causes you believe in. Instead, we get 'I want to pay more taxes, so let's legislate that everyone has to pay more taxes'.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:09 PM   #11
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We want EFFICENT taxes!
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:12 PM   #12
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Bless your heart for wanting people's money to go to noble things, but the fundamental problem is governments never spend money efficiently in the first place.

By the time $1 goes into say, schooling, there's only 15 cents left.


There will alwys be a need for taxes because privatization doesnt lend itself to many types of public infrastructure. US government sucks right now, but theres nothing wrong with trying to get people in there that suck a little less to use the dollars wiser. The very fact that there are other large governments in the world that are much more efficient than ours is PROOF that an increase in efficiency is possible. Your defeatist mindset holds everybody back...
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We want EFFICENT taxes!

That's why we are trying to drain the swamp, bruh.
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There will alwys be a need for taxes because privatization doesnt lend itself to many types of public infrastructure. US government sucks right now, but theres nothing wrong with trying to get people in there that suck a little less to use the dollars wiser. The very fact that there are other large governments in the world that are much more efficient than ours is PROOF that an increase in efficiency is possible. Your defeatist mindset holds everybody back...

Large governments? The latgest is Germany and theyre 1/4 our population. Most, like Norway, Switzerland, Japan... are like 1/25 our population.


Bureaucracy works much more efficiently on smaller scales. Look up the sociological principle of “diffusion of responsibility.”

The more people you add to a group the less accountable each person begins to feel for its direction. People start looking around and waiting for others to act, assuming that with so many people surely someone else will.

Calculate the average population of developed, socialist nations and tell me if it’s anything close to 360,000,000.

But by all means, if you can get coastal California to secede, then great. Would def help the US solve some population issues. Lez do this!

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Large governments? The latgest is Germany and theyre 1/4 our population. Most, like Norway, Switzerland, Japan... are like 1/25 our population.


Bureaucracy works much more efficiently on smaller scales. Look up the sociological principle of “diffusion of responsibility.”

The more people you add to a group the less accountable each person begins to feel for its direction. People start looking around and waiting for others to act, assuming that with so many people surely someone else will.

Calculate the average population of developed, socialist nations and tell me if it’s anything close to 360,000,000.

But by all means, if you can get coastal California to secede, then great. Would def help the US solve some population issues. Lez do this!


No, our governments are corrupted and shitty even at state levels on similar scales to smaller countries... US government is just run shitty in general because the crony capitilistic culture gives public officials even more leeway to take bribes (ahem.. "campaign donations") and people here just assume its like that everywhere so theyre let off the hook for not fulfilling their duties. Wrong buddy!
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