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Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
West is greater.
Wade is better.
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College superstar
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
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College superstar
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Jerry West was the better player and overall career so him.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
West had the better career, and will be remembered longer. We're still arguing about him after all these years!
As for who is better, it's impossible to say because they didn't play in the same era. West growing up now has the same advantages as Wade. Wade growing up then has the same disadvantages. West would have benefited from the 3 pt line. We only have stats on his steals and blocks from his last season, and they were very good. People talk about Wade being a great shot blocking SG, but so was West.
The only thing you can do when asking whether player A from era X is better than player B from era Y with comparable careers is to measure them relative to the their competition. And on that, West comes out ahead. The only guard better than the Logo in his era was Oscar.
Also, it's not like West wasn't athletic. I've read that he could get 16 inches above the rim in college.
Now peak season might go to Wade with the slower pace and his great post-season that year.
Last edited by Marchesk; 04-19-2014 at 12:39 PM.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by christian1923
It's gotta be a white basketball insecurity reason for those ppl saying west. Get real
And if we were comparing Oscar to Wade, what then? What a stupid coment. West is top 15 in everyone's list. Wade isn't.
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Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by Marchesk
And if we were comparing Oscar to Wade, what then? What a stupid coment. West is top 15 in everyone's list. Wade isn't.
Nobody's arguing that West isn't higher on the all-time list than Wade but it's not because he was the better player. Put Wade in West's era and we're talking about Wade in the GOAT discussion. You think any of those dudes would be able to stay in front of Wade for more than 2 seconds? **** no.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by TheNaturalWR
Nobody's arguing that West isn't higher on the all-time list than Wade but it's not because he was the better player. Put Wade in West's era and we're talking about Wade in the GOAT discussion. You think any of those dudes would be able to stay in front of Wade for more than 2 seconds? **** no.
Are we time travelling Wade out of college to that era? Is Wade taking PEDs back then? Is he allowed to carry and walk? Does flopping get him calls? Can he be as explosive in Chuck Taylors?
When Wade goes to the rim, and Wilt or Russell or Thurmond are there to greet him, what is he doing? You think the spacing was the same without a three point line?
It's not the same, dude. West was great in an era that favored the bigs. You weren't allowed to dribble like you are now. West didn't have Dr J or MJ or any of those dudes to model his game off of. His long distant shots only counted as two points.
Have West and Wade grow up in the same era. You pick. Then tell me who you think would be the better player.
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Great college starter
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
West, for sure.
Better, longer peak, better career. For those knocking West's era, keep in mind that he was still good for 20/7 at 36 years of age, only 6 years before the arrival of Bird and Magic. His nasty jumper would find a home in any era.
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Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by TheNaturalWR
Nobody's arguing that West isn't higher on the all-time list than Wade but it's not because he was the better player. Put Wade in West's era and we're talking about Wade in the GOAT discussion. You think any of those dudes would be able to stay in front of Wade for more than 2 seconds? **** no.
give up man, these guys are like a cult.
They honestly think 1960s NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current NBA
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Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by Marchesk
Are we time travelling Wade out of college to that era? Is Wade taking PEDs back then? Is he allowed to carry and walk? Does flopping get him calls? Can he be as explosive in Chuck Taylors?
When Wade goes to the rim, and Wilt or Russell or Thurmond are there to greet him, what is he doing? You think the spacing was the same without a three point line?
It's not the same, dude. West was great in an era that favored the bigs. You weren't allowed to dribble like you are now. West didn't have Dr J or MJ or any of those dudes to model his game off of. His long distant shots only counted as two points.
Have West and Wade grow up in the same era. You pick. Then tell me who you think would be the better player.
Wade is one of the most explosive players in NBA HISTORY, he could be playing barefoot and his athleticism would still be shown. Prime Wade routinely shitted on elite defenses in the postseason I doubt he'd struggle. Wilt and Russell never faced someone explosive as Wade, there's no doubt in my mind Wde would YAM it on them given the situation for it.
As for the question? It's easily Wade for me. I'll take the more explosive, athletic player with great all-around ability every time.
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Great college starter
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
give up man, these guys are like a cult.
They honestly think 1960s NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current NBA
Do you think 1973 Kareem would do okay in this era?
West, aged 35, averaged 23/9 that year. You think long shorts, flashy jumbotron graphics, and techno music blaring the background is going to phase him?
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sahelanthropus
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
give up man, these guys are like a cult.
They honestly think 1960s NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current NBA
Huh? Link to someone saying that specifically?
No, people just disagree that man has evolved in 50 years. After the league was integrated (by the mid-late 60s, I posted the racial breakdown recently in a thread), stars would be stars in any era.
Anyhow, I personally don't know who I'd take in this comparison.
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Bandwagoner
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Coach
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
Given how little he's played the past several season, lack of added dimension to his game to account for age. Laziness. Underwhelming playoffs in 2013. I think West is the 3rd best SG ever. Wade is firmly in 4th or 5th. He's dropping.
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You are amazing
Re: Jerry West or Dwayne Wade?
West much better player, desicevely
Wade had a better career with 3 rings doe
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