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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Article dated back to the summer of 2014, not that big of a deal since their recent matchups have been meaningless:
Regular season head-to-head
Points per game: Duncan 21.6; Nowitzki 21.3
Rebounds per game: Duncan 11.3; Nowitzki 8.3
Assists per game: Duncan 3.0; Nowitzki 2.4
Blocks per game: Duncan 1.8; Nowitzki 1.0
Steals per game: Nowitzki 0.8; Duncan 0.6
Field-goal percentage: Duncan 51.3; Nowitzki 45.6
3-point percentage: Duncan 40.0; Nowitzki 37.5
Wins: Duncan 31; Nowitzki 21
Playoffs head-to-head
Points per game: Duncan 26.0; Nowitzki 24.5
Rebounds per game: Duncan 12.3; Nowitzki 10.1
Assists per game: Duncan 3.6; Nowitzki 2.3
Blocks per game: Duncan 1.9; Nowitzki 0.6
Steals per game: Nowitzki 1.3; Duncan 0.8
Field-goal percentage: Duncan 53.9; Nowitzki 49.8
3-point percentage: Nowitzki 22.9; Duncan 0.0
Wins: Duncan 14; Nowitzki 12
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Naero
You only mentioned the outliers that he played against to distort the notion that Dirk had a disadvantage which "stymied his production from being even greater" than Duran'ts; that's impossible, as few meetings against them will skew his production that much over the course of an 82-game season. Plus, how did Kobe hinder Dirk's production when he wasn't even routinely guarded by him?
In Dirk's most title-favorited year of his career in 2007, do you want to remind me who was guarding him in the first-round series he shot 38.3% in? When a ripe Durant underperformed in a losing effort, he was at least guarded by defensive specialists in Tony Allen and Kawhi Leonard.
If you want to downplay Dirk's supporting cast to downplay his accomplishments, please explicate to me how Dirk's team managed to win the 2011 NBA Finals despite him shooting 41%; I'm confused, because Durant shot 54% in the 2012 finals compared to a collective 42% by his supposedly stacked supporting cast, and he was still somehow unable to lead them to a win.
Because Dirk was the sole focus of the opposition whereas Durant was one of three stars on his team...and because Dirk destroyed Miami every single 4th quarter whereas Durant collected buckets in garbage team.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
not through his first 9 seasons
why would someone compare a 17 year career to one that hasn't even hit a decade.
woops my bad
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Article dated back to the summer of 2014, not that big of a deal since their recent matchups have been meaningless:
So you just proved my point. Thank you.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by masonanddixon
So you just proved my point. Thank you.
45-33 isn't proving your point.
Duncan beating Dirk out in PPG, RPG, APG, BPG, and FG% in both the regular season and playoffs isn't proving your point.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
45-33 isn't proving your point.
Duncan beating Dirk out in PPG, RPG, APG, BPG, and FG% in both the regular season and playoffs isn't proving your point.
They essentially battled to a standstill and Duncan is recognised as top 5 player of all time. And Dirk assraped Duncan that one postseason when Manu was injured.
Now how about you post Dirk and Durant's head to head statistics?
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Dirk on an All-Time ranking is around the 20s.
The way Durant's career is heading he'll easily make the 10s.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Dirk on an All-Time ranking is around the 20s.
The way Durant's career is heading he'll easily make the 10s.
Durant hasn't been relevant for like three years now. And his team has been surpassed by Golden State.
This season is his best chance though as the West blows.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by masonanddixon
They essentially battled to a standstill and Duncan is recognised as top 5 player of all time. And Dirk assraped Duncan that one postseason when Manu was injured.
Now how about you post Dirk and Durant's head to head statistics?
They play different positions and guard different players, but whatever.
http://bkref.com/tiny/6jjQi
They are equal in the W/L total during the RS, but KD has more playoff wins.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
They play different positions and guard different players, but whatever.
http://bkref.com/tiny/6jjQi
They are equal in the W/L total during the RS, but KD has more playoff wins.
But didn't Durant get raped by Marion in the 2011 playoffs? As in like 37% shooting for the series.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by masonanddixon
Durant hasn't been relevant for like three years now. And his team has been surpassed by Golden State.
This season is his best chance though as the West blows.
He's still the best player in the league healthy. He doesn't need elite role players to reach 50+ wins.
The only way that someone would deny Durant's potential for greatness is if they're agenda driven. If KD's career ends up worse than Dirk then he would have underachieved, that's a fact.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
He's still the best player in the league healthy. He doesn't need elite role players to reach 50+ wins.
The only way that someone would deny Durant's potential for greatness is if they're agenda driven. If KD's career ends up worse than Dirk then he would have underachieved, that's a fact.
He's a nice player but he's no Dirk, and there's no shame in that.
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Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
I hope OP isn't a sheep and thinks that just because the Mavs' record is better than the Thunder that it submits Dirk's legacy and he'll never be passed by Durant.
I don't know where this came from, but Durant has the higher potential for greatness. There's no question about it.
OP doesn't like black players.
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NBA Legend
Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by sportjames23
OP doesn't like black players.
White Supremacist second generation Serb, seems like Australia is full of these assholes.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Can't stand it when people say Durant is at Dirk's level and will surpass him
Originally Posted by Fallen Angel
Article dated back to the summer of 2014, not that big of a deal since their recent matchups have been meaningless:
it doesn't matter because you said dirk has never got the better of top 10 player when he's outplayed Duncan bron in series where he also won. Durant hasn't done anything like that in the playoffs yet
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