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Old 03-25-2011, 10:38 PM   #16
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Gasol? Future HOF?

You might be stretching that out.


Byum as the best C? Really.....on pure skill I think there are some better ones but he has played like the best so I give you that.


Blake and Barnes aren't that special and I would say they have disappointed in Laker uni's. Brown is solid. Fisher is way past his prime and only good for a clutch shot here and there.


96 Kukoc > 11 Odom


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Old 03-25-2011, 10:38 PM   #17
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Gasol is a future hall of famer, no debate. And name one center from the West better than a healthy Bynum.


I said Bynum is the best. I gave you that.


I still don't see Gasol as a HOF type of player though. He just doesn't seem like that type of player to me...
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:39 PM   #18
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swept by the Heat.. WITH ALL of those guys played in both meets.
Dude just because they are stacked doesn't mean they are invincible. The Lakers weakness is speed which is Heat probably only advantage over the Lakers.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:39 PM   #19
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The 2011 Miami Heat beat this Lakers team in a finals series. The matchups are too strong in Miami's favor.

Miami is an incredibly balanced team on offense and defense. Miami is 2nd in the NBA for FG% on offense and they are 2nd in the NBA for FG% against on defense.

Wade will totally own Kobe on both sides of the ball if they meet. No one takes kobe's space away better than Wade and Wade has been blowing by kobe for years:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=202491

LeBron >>>>>> Artest

Bosh has played very well against Gasol over the last 3 seasons as Gasol has problems with the combination of quickness and good length (which Bosh has in spades).

Haslem can help contain Odom as he has played well against him in the past - remember they both played for the Heat and know each other well. And before anyone says that Odom brings other things besides points, remember that Haslem is 7th in rebounding rate for all PF's in the NBA. And he is a great hustle player too. He is good on defense and is Top 5 over the past 2 years for drawing charges.

Bynum will get fouled out (or on the bench) when the two best drivers in the league, LeBron and Wade, attack the paint more than they do during the regular season ( the big 3 are getting to the line 25 times per game in the regular season and you can expect that to be in the 30-35 range per game in the playoffs).

Bynum had 4 fouls with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter in the last game and the Heat weren't even trying to get at him. lol.

Spoelstra has always prepared well against the Triangle offense as a coach. ALWAYS. Say what you want about Spoestra, but the man knows how to coach defense and really knows how to defend the triangle.

The Lakers and Heat bench are close for overall productivity, both benches are ranked next to each other. So the Lakers don't have an advantage there.

The Heat have a huge advantage with team speed, and the backcourt of Chalmers/Wade/LeBron is way too quick for the Lakers backcourt. And that backcourt speed will have even a larger disparity when Kobe and Fisher's old legs have been through 3 playoff series before the Finals.

The Heat have the quick inside people to move quickly to the top of the key on pick n rolls. You need that against the Lakers.

The Lakers are a great rebounding team but the Heat are not the Celtics. The Heat are the 7th rebounding team in the league (not a big advantage for the lakers)

It's Wade >> Kobe and Kobe teams have always had great difficulty against LeBron led teams.

And finally, against the lakers you must shoot well outside the paint. The Heat are 2nd in the NBA for FG% outside the paint.

The Heat are a nightmare matchup for the Lakers. The Lakers would be much better off facing the Celtics or bulls in the finals.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:40 PM   #20
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swept by the Heat.. WITH ALL of those guys played in both meets.


Bynum was hurt the first game and the HeaT just outworked the Lakers in the second game.. I don't see that happening in the playoffs...
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:41 PM   #21
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I said Bynum is the best. I gave you that.


I still don't see Gasol as a HOF type of player though. He just doesn't seem like that type of player to me...
Not a 1st-ballot HOFer but he should get within 5 years of eligibility.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:42 PM   #22
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lol there all like 35 years old

Still.. the celtics have like the 03 all-star team starters.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:42 PM   #23
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the only reason this team is the most talented is because kobe is on it, true fact
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:43 PM   #24
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08 Celtics.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:43 PM   #25
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lol they aren't even the most talented team in the league

Miami >>>

Best SF
Best SG
Top 5 PF
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:43 PM   #26
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The 2011 Miami Heat beat this Lakers team in a finals series. The matchups are too strong in Miami's favor.

Miami is an incredibly balanced team on offense and defense. Miami is 2nd in the NBA for FG% on offense and they are 2nd in the NBA for FG% against on defense.

Wade will totally own Kobe on both sides of the ball if they meet. No one takes kobe's space away better than Wade and Wade has been blowing by kobe for years:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=202491

LeBron >>>>>> Artest

Bosh has played very well against Gasol over the last 3 seasons as Gasol has problems with the combination of quickness and good length (which Bosh has in spades).

Haslem can help contain Odom as he has played well against him in the past - remember they both played for the Heat and know each other well. And before anyone says that Odom brings other things besides points, remember that Haslem is 7th in rebounding rate for all PF's in the NBA. And he is a great hustle player too. He is good on defense and is Top 5 over the past 2 years for drawing charges.

Bynum will get fouled out (or on the bench) when the two best drivers in the league, LeBron and Wade, attack the paint more than they do during the regular season ( the big 3 are getting to the line 25 times per game in the regular season and you can expect that to be in the 30-35 range per game in the playoffs).

Bynum had 4 fouls with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter in the last game and the Heat weren't even trying to get at him. lol.

Spoelstra has always prepared well against the Triangle offense as a coach. ALWAYS. Say what you want about Spoestra, but the man knows how to coach defense and really knows how to defend the triangle.

The Lakers and Heat bench are close for overall productivity, both benches are ranked next to each other. So the Lakers don't have an advantage there.

The Heat have a huge advantage with team speed, and the backcourt of Chalmers/Wade/LeBron is way too quick for the Lakers backcourt. And that backcourt speed will have even a larger disparity when Kobe and Fisher's old legs have been through 3 playoff series before the Finals.

The Heat have the quick inside people to move quickly to the top of the key on pick n rolls. You need that against the Lakers.

The Lakers are a great rebounding team but the Heat are not the Celtics. The Heat are the 7th rebounding team in the league (not a big advantage for the lakers)

It's Wade >> Kobe and Kobe teams have always had great difficulty against LeBron led teams.

And finally, against the lakers you must shoot well outside the paint. The Heat are 2nd in the NBA for FG% outside the paint.

The Heat are a nightmare matchup for the Lakers. The Lakers would be much better off facing the Celtics or bulls in the finals.



I would put my money on the lakers cuz bron isn't going to let Wade shine... And the Lakers are just so darn big.. The regular season means nothing...


At pg they are similar and they are similar at the two guard position.. Bron over Artest but Artest usually forces him into alot of turnovers. I would take pau over bosh and Bynum over damp .. Odom over the entire Heat bench...

So the only true matchup advantage is Bron.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:44 PM   #27
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The 2011 Miami Heat blah blah blah.


Writing books trying to make believers?

You will disappear soon enough and the finals will be good without you.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:44 PM   #28
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this is what happens when u have an endless cheque book like LA... trhis is the reason why the NBA NEED to do something about salary caps.. the rules are being absolutely exploited by LA.. something has to be done
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Default Re: When was the last time we've seen a talented team like the Healthy Lakers

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I said Bynum is the best. I gave you that.


I still don't see Gasol as a HOF type of player though. He just doesn't seem like that type of player to me...
well since the hall of fame includes a player's career overseas I'd say its pretty much certain Gasol will one day get in. Not first ballot though
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:45 PM   #30
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Default Re: When was the last time we've seen a talented team like the Healthy Lakers

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The 2011 Miami Heat beat this Lakers team in a finals series. The matchups are too strong in Miami's favor.

Miami is an incredibly balanced team on offense and defense. Miami is 2nd in the NBA for FG% on offense and they are 2nd in the NBA for FG% against on defense.

Wade will totally own Kobe on both sides of the ball if they meet. No one takes kobe's space away better than Wade and Wade has been blowing by kobe for years:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=202491

LeBron >>>>>> Artest

Bosh has played very well against Gasol over the last 3 seasons as Gasol has problems with the combination of quickness and good length (which Bosh has in spades).

Haslem can help contain Odom as he has played well against him in the past - remember they both played for the Heat and know each other well. And before anyone says that Odom brings other things besides points, remember that Haslem is 7th in rebounding rate for all PF's in the NBA. And he is a great hustle player too. He is good on defense and is Top 5 over the past 2 years for drawing charges.

Bynum will get fouled out (or on the bench) when the two best drivers in the league, LeBron and Wade, attack the paint more than they do during the regular season ( the big 3 are getting to the line 25 times per game in the regular season and you can expect that to be in the 30-35 range per game in the playoffs).

Bynum had 4 fouls with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter in the last game and the Heat weren't even trying to get at him. lol.

Spoelstra has always prepared well against the Triangle offense as a coach. ALWAYS. Say what you want about Spoestra, but the man knows how to coach defense and really knows how to defend the triangle.

The Lakers and Heat bench are close for overall productivity, both benches are ranked next to each other. So the Lakers don't have an advantage there.

The Heat have a huge advantage with team speed, and the backcourt of Chalmers/Wade/LeBron is way too quick for the Lakers backcourt. And that backcourt speed will have even a larger disparity when Kobe and Fisher's old legs have been through 3 playoff series before the Finals.

The Heat have the quick inside people to move quickly to the top of the key on pick n rolls. You need that against the Lakers.

The Lakers are a great rebounding team but the Heat are not the Celtics. The Heat are the 7th rebounding team in the league (not a big advantage for the lakers)

It's Wade >> Kobe and Kobe teams have always had great difficulty against LeBron led teams.

And finally, against the lakers you must shoot well outside the paint. The Heat are 2nd in the NBA for FG% outside the paint.

The Heat are a nightmare matchup for the Lakers. The Lakers would be much better off facing the Celtics or bulls in the finals.


Jeez you need to post the same crap in every damn thread. We get it, the Heat swept the Lakers. Blah blah blah....When you have a guy who no one would want coaching their team going up against the GOAT head coach in Phil Jackson, that automatically puts you at a disadvantage.

You don't bet against LA in the Finals (unless you're betting on BOS) and just being on that stage is easy enough to have mentally weak players such as LeBron and Bosh crumble and play terrible.
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